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Regular Meeting
Aspen Planning & Zoning
February 13, 1968
Meeting was called to order by Vice Chairman Francis Whitaker at 5:05 p.m.
with the following members present:
Mayor Robert Barnard
Councilman Clyde Clymer
Francis Whitaker
Leon A. Wurl
William Tharp
Joel Hartmeister - Absent
George Heneghan - Absent
There being no corrections or additions to the minutes as mailed, a motion
was made and seconded to approve the minutes. All in favor, motion carried.
Election of Officers
Vice Chairman Whitaker announced that there would be an election for the
office of Chairman, Vice Chairman and Secretary.
Nominations were opened for Chairman.
Mayor Barnard nominated William Tharp.
Mr. Whitaker asked twice for further nominations.
Mr. Wurl seconded the nomination of Tharp.
Nominations were closed.
Whitaker asked for a vote. William Tharp was elected Chairman.
Mr. Whitaker then turned the meeting over to Mr. Tharp.
Mr. Tharp called for nominations for Vice Chairman.
Mr. Wurl nominated George Heneghan for Vice Chairman.
Mayor Barnard seconded the nomination.
Mr. Tharp asked for further nominations.
Nominations were closed.
Chairman Tharp called for the vote. Mr. Heneghan was elected Vice Chairman
Chairman Tharp opened the nominations for Secretary.
Mr. Whitaker suggested that they make Mrs. Graves Secretary, since she
was at all the meetings and did all the secretarial work.
Mayor Barnard felt the Secretary should be a member of the regular
Board since the secretary would have a vote.
Mr. Gramiger from the audience expressed his op~n~on that this was so.
Mr. Wurl read from the by-laws that the Secretary should be elected from
the Board.
Mr. Wurl then nominated Joel Hartmeister for Secretary.
Nomination was seconded by Councilman Clymer.
Chairman Tharp asked for any other nominations.
Nominations were closed.
Chairman Tharp asked for a vote. Mr. Hartmeister was elected Secretary.
Building Review
The plans for new offices for Grant and Company were reviewed. Discussion
followed. Mayor Barnard asked Mr. Murray if there were any plans to move
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the present non-conforming use to their property in the Rio Grande Rail-
road area. Mr. Murray said they plan to start the project in April if
things go well.
Motion was made and seconded to accept the plans since the legal op~n~on
was that this was a permitted use. Roll call vote - Barnard aye; Clymer
aye; Tharp aye; Whitaker aye; Wurl aye.
Chairman Tharp announced that the question has arisen on whether there is
a need for building review. It was suggested that perhaps this could be
handled more easily by the Building Inspector and if special zoning
questions arose he could consult the City Attorney. Mr. Wurl felt that
building review probably made the Building Inspector too dependent upon
the Planning and Zoning decisions and the other way around as well.
Mr. Whitaker felt that it was also possible that plans were being held up
too long by the building review procedure.
Building Inspector Reynolds suggested that if any problem arose he could
consult the Planning and Zoning Commission for their views; he also suggested
that he would be glad to list any proposed projects that might be of interest
to the Commission with any problem he feels might arise for them so that
they can take a look at their zoning ordinance to catch any loopholes which
need consideration.
Chairman Tharp made a motion to set a public hearing to suspend part of the
zoning ordinance requiring building review which is in 11-1-11 of the City
Zoning Ordinance. Motion seconded. Roll call vote - Barnard aye; Clymer
aye; Tharp aye; Whitaker aye; Wurl aye.
Mr. Heneghan arrived.
Hodges and Oliver plans for 108 units were
Mr. Oliver and Mr. Stevenson were present.
Commission.
presented by Fritz Benedict.
Plans were reviewed by the
Motion was made by Mayor Barnard that due to the complexities of the plans,
they be tabled until next meeting. Seconded by Clymer. Roll call vote -
Barnard aye; Clymer aye; Heneghan aye; Tharp aye; Whitaker aye; Wurl aye.
Mr. Benedict offered to meet with the Commission at their convenience to
review the plans with them.
Tom Daly presented a drawing and plot plan of a proposed project with
36 unlimited units and business space on the ground floor with an arcade,
also underground parking provided for apartments and business area. Building
would not exceed the 37-1/2 foot height limit. He also gave the Commission
a letter explaining the project uses. No action was taken since complete
plans were not presented.
Motion was made and seconded that hearings on the following subjects be set
for March 1st, 5:00 p.m., City Council Chambers: North Side Annexation
Zoning, Re-zoning request for Block 58, Vertical Zoning, C-lA District,
Building Review. Motion was made by Barnard, seconded by Heneghan. Roll
call vote - Barnard aye; Clymer aye; Heneghan aye; Tharp aye; Whitaker aye;
Wurl aye. Motion carried.
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Old Business
Action taken without a quorum must be re-affirmed.
Mayor Barnard made a motion to re-affirm action taken on Matthew Drug
to grant permission to lease spaces at Chevron for parking in connection
withtheir second story addition.
Mr. Heneghan asked if there was anything in the Ordinances preventing parking
on a different premise from the principal use. It was vertified that
there was nothing concerning this use as long as it is in the same zone.
Motion was seconded by Mr. Wurl. Roll call vote - Barnard aye; Clymer aye;
Heneghan aye; Tharp aye; Whitaker nay; Wurl aye. Motion carried.
Mr. Wurl stated that there is a thorough study being made at this time on
the parking problem.
Motion was made and seconded to re-affirm acceptance of the White Kitchen
plans. Roll call vote - Barnard aye; Clymer aye; Tharp aye; Whtaker aye;
Heneghan aye; Wurl aye.
Motion was made and seconded to re-affirm mmtion that anyone interested
should be authorized to go expenses paid to Planning Institute at Boulder.
Motion carried.
Vio lations
Mr. Whitaker brought up the lack of enforcement
street parking. He had a list of 5 violations.
the Commission decided that enforcement was out
Mr. Reynolds said he would be glad to look into
in Mr. Whitaker's report.
of violations of off-
After some discussion
of their jurisdictian.
the violations set out
By-laws
Change in Commission membership was discussed. The question arose as to
whether or not a quorum should be reduced to 4 members. This can be done
according to the State Statutes.
Mr. Whitaker made a motion that the quorum be reduced from 5 to 4 members
which is a majority and to avoid a 2 to 2 vote - require 4 votes for a
majority on any motion.
Mr. Clymer felt that 3 out of a quorum of 4 should be enough to pass on a
motion.
Mr. Whitaker withdrew his motion. Motion was made that the quorum be
reduced to 4 members with a majority of 3 votes on any motion. Motion was
seconded. Roll call vote - Barnard aye; Clymer aye; Tharp aye; Whitaker
nay; Wurl aye. Motion carried.
Motion was made to change Article III - Meetings, Sec. 1 to read as follows:
"The regular meetings of the City Planning and Zoning Commission shall be
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held on the second and fourth Tuesday of each month at 5:00 p.m. unless
otherwise scheduled. Omit: Subject to approval of County Planning and
Zoning Commission, the second meeting of each month shall be a joint
meeting with the County Planning Commission". Motion was seconded. Roll
call vote - Barnard aye; Clymer aye; Heneghan aye; Tharp aye; Whitaker
aye; Wurl aye. Motion carried.
Motion was made by Mr. Wurl to change Article VI, Section 1, Employees to
read - "Any employees of the Planning and Zoning Commission shall be
directly responsible to the City Council and indirectly responsible to the
Planning Commission. Motion was seconded by Barnard. Roll call vote -
Barnard aye; Clymer aye; Heneghan aye; Tharp aye; Whitaker nay; Wurl aye.
Motion carried.
The Commission discussed whether or not there should be an addition to the
7 man commission. It was suggested that it would be considerably freer of
political pressure, by Mr. Whitaker, who felt this was the cause of loss of
valuable commission members.
Mr. Wurl felt this should perhaps be postponed until it was determined whether
or not the City would go home rule.
The Sanitation District letter was read. Since there was no preliminary
plan or map it was decided that the Secretary should request plans and maps
and anything else pertinent for study by the Planning and Zoning Commission.
A motion was made to set a study session for the Commission to go over the
reports of Jerry Brown on the planter strip on Main Street, dwelling units
and off-street parking in the C-l Commercial District, and dwelling units
in the C-l and C-lA District. Also the Sanitation District, vertical
zoning, sidewalks, parks, etc. Motion was seconded. Roll call vote -
Barnard aye; Clymer aye; Tharp aye; Whitaker aye; Heneghan aye; Wurl aye.
Motion carried.
Motion was made and seconded that letters of appreciation be sent to the
people who had recently resigned from the Commission. Motion carried.
Motion was made by Mr. Clymer to adjourn, seconded by Mr. Whitaker. All
in favor, meeting adjourned at 6:55 p.m.
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