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JOINT MEETING OF THE CITY AND aoUNTY PLANNING COMMISSIONS
APRIL 14, 1964
CITY HALL, ASPEN, COLORADO
Present were: Jack Walls, Francis Whitaker, Mayor Harald Pabst,
Fritz Benedict, and City Administrator John Kerrigan.
The meeting was called to order at 8;00 p.m. by Chairman Jack Walls.
The first item presented for discussion was the proposed Building
Review Ordinance. Mr. Walls stated that copies of this had been
sent to City Attorney Balcomb, and Mr. O'Rourke of the Colorado
Municipal League. He read the comments on this from O'Rourke (dated
April 6) and from Balcomb (April 7). He stated that he feels that
Mr. Balcomb doesn't fully understand just what the Planning Comm-
ission is trying to accomplish with this ordinance; the people will
still be able to go to the Board of Adjustment, and merely another
step will be added instead of any power being usurped.
Mr. Whitaker mentioned the problem of persons going ahead with con-
struction before a building permit is obtained. Mr. Kerrigan stated
that he doesn't think that this occurs very much; however, the dorm-
itories~n Block 70 were cited as an example of this having happened.
Mr. Kerrigan feels that the ordinance would add unnecessary steps,
making the obtaining of a building permit more difficult; feels that
the Building Inspector should be able to handle the necessary check-
ing,and that the only thing that the Building Inspector would not do
that the Planning Commissions would do is the checking of method of
design. Mr. Walls feels that this ordinance is the only way to ob-
tain any sort of control over the new construction, and Mr. Benedict
doesn't feel that it wouli be a great hardship, and other cities have
this type of thing. It was stated that the plans would be filed, and
no variance from them would be allowed without permission from the
Commission; also, off-street parking could be controlled. Mr. Whit-
aker feels that a Building Review Ordinance should be tried, and Mr.
Walls suggested that the present ordinance be reworked and presented
in the form of a report to Council.
Mr. Walls read the portion of Ken Balcomb's letter with regard to
amendment to the Zoning Ordinance, and the necessary public hearing.
Discussion followed.
Discussed - R-1S zone. jack mentioned a letter which he had sent
to the Council regarding "the establishing of such a zone, which had
apparently never come up for Council discussion.
Mr. Walls read the letter to Mr. Wiener of April 1, and April 9,
regarding the maps Wiener had sent.
Mayor Pabst mentioned the problem with truck campers, because of
their lack of sanitary facilities, and parking. Discussed was the
possibility of going to trailer courts, or having the Forestry Ser-
vice keeping a campground plowed.
In regard to Subdivision Regulations, Mr. Kerrigan feels that those
sent by Mr. Wiener are workable except in a few areas~ It was stateed
that subdivision regulations should become as regular laws in zoning
ordinace, and complied with as such; and if possible the same ones
should be adopted by both City and County, even though they are set
out primarily for the Sounty. John Kerrigan feels that people should
be aware of what they will have to comply with as far as streets,
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water, etc. are concerned, and he also feels that sidewalks in the
R-1S zone are questionable. Discussed was the possibility that reg-
ulations should be different for varying grades, and the dropping
of streets, sidewalks and curbs.
Discussed - City having a copy of State Statutes, and Mr. Kerrigan
stated that they would be available soon.
Mayor Pabst stated that he feels that the use of the term "aesthetic
control" could possibly cause antagonism, and Mr. Walls stated that
the term was not used in the proposed ordinance; the term "building
review" is used.
Mr. Kerrigan reported that the flushing of the streets should be
completed by April 16, and also that the Justice of the Peace had
contacted him regarding jailed persons working on the streets.
In regard to Curb Cuts, Mr. Whitaker quoted from the minutes regarding
changes in the ordinance which Mr. Kerrigan had proposed (one 20'
cut or two 12' cuts.) Mr. Walls mentioned alleys as a means of access
to property, and feels tha~corners should be given no special consid-
eration. It was the feeling of the Commissions that the Board of
Adjustment should set up a policy regarding filling stations, >>
possibly allowing them two 20' cuts with a minimum space of 20'
between them. Mr. Walls suggested that the same curb cuts be allowed
for Tourist, Residential and Commercial Districts.
Mr. Benedict showed a plat and scale model of the Aspen Alps Club.
He stated that the Aspen Alps Club would like to have permission
to pave Ute Ave., which runs between the present unit and the one
to be constructed soon, in a manner as shown; in this way, it would
be more like a mall, and would be landscaped right up to the pavement,
which would be curved through the block. He also stated that most
of the access to the buildings is off the street, causing little
congestion on the street, and that he had taken this proposal to the
City Council and had been referred to the City Planning Commission.
Mr. Whitaker suggested that the proposed pavement be widened from
20' to 24', and Mayor Pabst stated that the City would have to re-
tain the right to widen and straighten the street so that it would
be a normal size, should the need ever arise. Mr. Walls feels that
this may set a precedent, and encourage the closing or restricting
of other thoroughfares by private means. The Commissions are in
general agreement that this sort of informal-appearing paving and
other such improvements should be encouraged.
Discussed - Glory Hole and Durant Mine, and possiblity of filling
up the Glory Hole and using it for parking.
The meeting was adjourned at 10:lS p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Francis Whitaker, Secretary
~ecorded by Lesley Sudders
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