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JOINT MEETING OF THE CITY AND COUNTY ZONING AND PLANNING
COMMISSIONS
January 15, 1963
The joint meeting of the City and County Planning & Zoning
Commissions was held at City Hall at 7:30 P.M. on Tuesday,
January 15, 1963. Present were: Harald Pabst, Sam Caudill,
Jim Markalunas, Fritz Benedict, Herbert Bayer, Henry Stein,
Wendy Morse, Jack Walls, Ken Moore.
Mr. Bayer welcomed the two new members to the County Board,
Mr. Morse and Mr. Pabst. It was stated that the Secretary
of the County Board is Sam caudill, and that since the re-
signation of Mr. Glidden, a new chairman was needed. It was
decided that a letter of appreciation be sent to Fred Glidden
for his years of service to the Zoning Commissions. The
first matter of business was the election of a new chairman
for the County Planning & Zoning Commission. A nomination
was made by Mr. Bayer that Henry Stein be made chairman,
seconded by Mr. Benedict, and was unanimously carried.
Mr. Bayer explained the reason for the joint meetings of the
City and County Planning Commissions. He said that one member
is lacking on the City board since Mr. Glidden resigned, and
that it was understood that the Board was allowed to have
another member also. Thus two new members should be appointed
to fill the City Planning Commission. The constituency of
the City Commission was reviewed: one member from the City
Council, the Mayor, the City Administrator, and four members
each to hold office for six years. Mr. Walls' term will
expire February 1964, and Mr. Glidden's term would expire
in 1968. The Mayor is aware that the Board needs members and
will appoint them.
Mr. Walls read the minutes of the meetings of November 26 an
December 11.
Mr. Bayer then brought up the unfinished business of the
relationship between City Council the the Zoning Commission,
and stated that action was awaited on several issues which
had been presented to the City Council. Action is awaited
with relation to corrections to the Weiner contract by Mr.
Stewart. The contract is still not signed. Mr. Jim Smith
is urging that Mr. Stewart move on this. Mr. Moore stated
that the present holdup is due to delay until Mr. Newell can
go over the contract. Mr. Wiener's office has received
everything he has requested of the people in Aspen. Mr.
Moore suggested anticipating his future needs with regard to
statistics from the Accessorts office, and suggested alerting
that office so as to prevent future delays. After discussion
it was decided that Mr. Moore expedite the completion of the
signing of the contract, as Council member. Mr. Markalunas
requested that a letter be written from the Planning Commission
requesting the Sanitation Board to furnish plans to Mr. Bender.
Mr. Bayer stated that Mr. Stewart was to draft an ordinance
on preservation of historical buildings November 26th,and
that it has not been done. He was also to draft an amendment
for public hearing to provide rezoning of the business
section on the west end of town, which has not been done. Mr.
Moore submitted a letter from property owners in that section
in which they stated their feelings on the proposed rezoning.
He said a new zoning map is needed to include the county.
There was discussion of the proposed rezoning of the area
near the bridge and the proposal to change it from business
to tourist. A letter from Mr. Drew was read representing the
property owners in that area. Mr. Bayer said that the
City Council suggested a compromise: to keep it as business
but make different regulations as to setbacks in that area.
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There should also be height restrictions, and certain businesses
should be screened from view for appearance only, and there
should be regulations with regard to the danger of cars
pulling out into the traffic. Council realizes that this is
a danger point, and would be willing to try this compromise
at a public hearing, but it is not in favor of rezoning this
area. The Planning Commission took note of the letters on
the subject, and suggested that a compromise be made and be
taken up at a public hearing. It was suggested that this
group of property owners might meet with City Council and
the Planning Commissions.
A letter from Mr. Bender was read by Mr. Walls in which he
requested transparencies of maps to use as base maps for
the area. The Secretary will obtain them. Mr. Walls asked
for figures on parking near the ski lifts for the Planner,
and Mr. Pabst is to obtain them from the Aspen Ski Corporation.
Mr. Bayer stated that the Planning Commission has requested
answers from City Council on the following matters, and has
received none: (1) the ordinances regarding temporary
outdoor signs, (2) the addition to Section 7 regarding
metallic surfaces, etc. which is to be included in the City
zoning as in the County, (3) the amendment to Section 9 on
a Building Review Committee. On this matter Mr. Moore suggested
that the Planning Commission take pictures and Hrite up
a rpsume of what is bad. He feels that a Building Review
Committee has to be sold, and that there should be leadership
shown through voluntary commitment. Mr. Bayer suggested
making more use of Paragraph 9. The Building Inspector should
have assistance with relation to large buildings for which
permits are requested. There has been no action (4) on
subdivision regulations, and it was stated that Mr. Wiener
will help with regard to this matter, and perhaps his re-
commendations will be accepted. (5) Mr. Markalunas said
there is no policy with regard to covered sidewalks. Mr.
Benedict said we are awaiting the end of winter in order to
test the present covered sidewalks before making a decision.
Mr. Moore suggested that a letter be written to City Council
asking that a moratorium be declared in this regard until
the end of the winter.
Mr. Bayer stated that everything is thrown back to the
Planning commission; streets, parking plan, etc., which have
been presented through the year. (6) The Planning Commission's
recommendations on the streets has not been adopted, and it
has asked the City Manager for changes which have been made
in the street planning for the use of the Tree Planting
Committee. This must be done soon, or it will be too late,
for the second year.
Discussion followed of the proposed combining of the City
and County Planning Commissions, and it was stated that
legally they cannot combine, but that of late, they meet
together as their problems are similar. Mr. Bayer said that
the Planning Commissions obtain results with the County
Commissioners, but not with the City Council. We have had
no answer with regard to the closing of streets, also pro-
posed. Mr. Moore said that it was decided to await the
Planner on this matter. Mr. Walls stated that better co-
ordination should be established between City Council and
the Planning Commission before the Planner submits drawings.
With regard to filling the vacancies on the City Planning
Commission, Mr. Moore felt that with two more architects,
Riohard Lai and Ted Mularz, the Commission would be top-heavy
with professional persons, and felt there should be more
citizens at large, in order to sell planning to the people.
Mr. Moore asked the Commissions' attitude regarding the
annexation of Riverside, and felt that City Council should be
advised on its implications. He felt that suoh an evaluation
would be a service to City Council.
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Mr. Stein stated that the work of the Board of Adjustment
should be reoognized. Mr. Bayer felt that there should be
a meeting with the Board of Adjustment. Mr. Wiener told
Mr. Bayer that Aspen is the best planned oommunity he had
gone into to start planning.
It was felt that there should be a joint meeting of the
Planning Commission and the City Council. The recommendations
with regard to the Planning Commission budget for 1963 were
not adopted. The agenda for a meeting of the two bodies
would be primarily coordination. Mr. Pabst suggested a
series of Aspen seminars with Mr. Wiener.
The meeting adjourned at 10:45 P.M.
Jack Walls, Secretary
Recorded by
Bette Gallagher