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Home My WebLink Aboutminutes.apz.19621120 . r r ~leeting of Aspen City Council with City Planning & Zoning Commission A meeting of the City Council and the City Planning & Zoning Commission was held at City Hall on Tuesday, November 2u, 1962, at 5:30 PM. Present were: Humphrey, Bill Bayer. ~ayor Mike Garrish, Fred (lidden, Jim Harkalunas, Frank Beyer, Jack Walls, Ken Moore, Clyde Newell, and Herbert Mr. Hayer was chairman of the meeting, and he announced that an assistant of Paul Wiener was expected to be in Aspen from Friday night, November 23rd, until Tuesday morning. He said that members of the Zoning Commissions will spend a great deal of time with him. One of the matters to be discussed with hi~ is the traffic going through the heart of tO~l, which will be greatly Increased 'men Independence Pass is surfaced, which is scheduled to be done within the next few years, makine it a year-round road. Nr. Humphrey is scheduled to go to Grand Junction Wednesday to discuss a preliminary schedule for ti,e main highway. Mr. Newell asked if a report would be made to the City Counci 1 after the visit of the man from,Mr. ~iener's office, and Mr. Bayer stated that he did not think there would be enough to report at this stage. He said that members of the Zoning Commission and other ci ti zens had already supplied Nr. Wiener wi th maps and a great deal of other informa- tion. ~len preliminary sketches and plans are ready, they will be sub- mltted to the City Council. Hayor Garrish stated that at times it might be advisable to have the city and county bodies meet together and at otl,er times they should meet separately when dealing strictly wlth plans within their o~ domains. There follo'o/Cd discussion of the need for a part-ti'l1e secretary for the Zoning Cozrnnissions and ~lr. Markalunas. It was stated that with the long range planning there would be more work rather than less. One great need would be to have minutes, reports and correspondence typed and sent to members of the City Council, County Commissioners and to the Zoning Commission members. After discussion, it was felt that there would be a need for a half-time secretary, and Mr. ~lidden is to ask the County Conmissioners if they would pay for half of such a girl, as it was felt that the City and County should integrate on this. It was stated that the city had a mimeograph machine which could be used for duplicating and circulating r"ports to the above groups. Those present stated their preference for an Aspen resident for thls job, and one who could take dictation. ~jr. Glidden is to contact the ..layor after discussing the matter with the County Com'l1issioners. Nr. Bayer stated that although the City Planning Commission had not used its entire budetary allocation this year, it would like to have a larger One for next year. The City is out of zoning regulation books, and it was stated that they are on order and will be coming when holes can be punched to fi t the present bo oks. Mrs. Hoffman is to Incite to ciet some copies without holes, and Ar. Humphrey is to try to get some 11aps from Denver tills com! ns week. There followed discussion or the proposed changing of the zoning of the area around Waterman's property from business to tourist 7.oning. It was pointed out that at present it is spot-zoned business and the rest of the surrounding area is tourist; that it can easily create a traffic hazard if bui ldings are built Ollt to the road, as allowed by business zoning. It was pointed out that the Zoning Commission had recummended the acceptance of the Villa's proposed gas station, with certain restrictions, as it I~uld have been a controlled station of high caliber. It was pointed out that :!r. Drew and other recent property Ot.mers in that area had bought the land wi th the understand- in:., that it was zoned business, and this might be zoning the:n out of business. lo!r. Glidden stated that the idea of zoning is not to depreciate, but to increase the value or property. ~1r. _'bore suggested trying to 8et the property olmers ther" to agree to restrict the land - - , ~ - 2 - B[)ainst a string of gas stations and 0et their cooperation. :.fayor Garrish asked if a restricted business ZO:1e \~ould not be possible, as otherIJise it would create a terrible traffic bazard if buildin"s o '-1ere set to tbe edge of the property tbcre. :'fr. ..larkalunas mentioned that this ,1Ould be danGerous from a safety standpoint unless it \Jould be changed to Fire Zone A as in the dOtmto,m business district, to prevent buildin"s from bcinl.> buil t up aGainst each otller and of combustible materials. He stated that this area should have certain fire regulations. ;.Jr. Bayer stated that the Board of Adjustment has jurisdiction over all gas station permits. It was the feeling of the :rayor and the group present tilat this arE:a should be zoned a restricted business zone, "ith setbacks, if it "ere Possible, stating that we have control over fi lliag stations nOt;. :-!r. nayer stated that Paragraph 9 of the Zonin" Regulations is not being put to proper use, but that it could give a solution in many cases regarding building review. :-lr. Stc\wrt and .'1r. Bayer are to get together On the text for a restrictive business zonins definition for this area, but :.lr. Bayer stated that it would still be preferable to zone that particular area Tourist to prevent spot zoniag, but stated that if tbis Here not possible, restricted business zoning would be acceptable. 'rne Council aloreed "ith the latter, for reasons of safety with regard to traffic and fire zone. This is to be presented as a compromise in the interest of all the people. Hr. Newell then stated that the federal government wi 11 probably provide a different route - not right through the tOt-1l1 _ with the increasin", traffic when Indcpendence Pass is made a year-round road, and asked that Aspen express itself before action is tal:en. .Ir. Ylienrr's plan t-:ill have a bearinz On the state and federal &ovcrnmcnts' decisions in the future. :>Ir. Bayer than proposed that an Historical Style Committee be established to set up UHli districts for the preservation or certain lJuildinL,s in Aspen. 20nino in those areas '-lOuld not be changed, but they ,;Quld be designated t'H" districts in whicLl proposed altcr,'~tions of structures ti,erein would require a permi t from the Bui lding Inspector. Tills ..ould apply only to exterior changes proposed in those bui Idings, in- cludin2, changes of colors. err. ,-loore susgested that this be done on a volutltary basis. It ..as stated that the City and County bUildings \;ould begin voluntarily "ith their buildings, and this might provide leadership. .lr. 3ayer stated that the Aspen Company O,r.IS many of tile large old bui Idings and that he could m:lke a statement in support of this proposal on its behalf. There followed discussion that many oE the buildings are not worth saving due to poor foundations, and that some of ti,e o,mers of these bui ldings do not have the money to put them in good shape, as it is very expensive. ;,1r. ~liddcn sUc-.;gested givi110 this to Clint Stewart to drat'1 up a provisional plan for the Ci ty Counci 1. The .:ayor Eel t that this proposal should be thougllt o'~'er, but 3..;lreed to1ith ..'lr. ~!e\.lell that there are many buildings which are not uarth preserving. He fel tit Hould be ..soad to have a place to put the old buildin0s that are being moved. :;r. 3ayer is to make a list of proposed buildings to be included in the preservation plan, which list is to be ....iven to J'.1r. Stewart, to give hi:n a feeling of what would be included. ;.lr. Bayer brought up the matter of A-frames, and there tolns .;eneral agreement that they are not liked by the group, but the question was raised of hOH to regulate them. It ..as stated by Ar. i,e','ell that people do not all like the same things, and that l.....e cannot regulate against otilers' tastes. .-Jr. Bayer stated that the use of paragraph 9 could well disallow the building of ^-framcs in many cases, if they do not conform to other buildings in the proposed area _ as a .,utter of protection of the surrounding property V.:lI ues. Para6raph 9 has been used in some cases, but not consistently. It \<.~as the feelino of the tr0up that in tile future "hen r<=quests for SUC:, building permits are requested, Ar. ~!3rkalunlls should make. a sur':ey or the surl-oundin!.:. property o,mers, l1hich '.'Quld include all the people i'l the block on both sides of the street vlithin a 200' radius. .!r. ..1oore su:sgestcd discllssin;s the :natter \lith those promotins A-frames here before any- thin6 is done. .Jr. Bayer suggested that requests for permits for A-frames co:ne beZore the Council, "hich could try to persuade against them. f '1 - 3 - There is to be another meetin~ of th(: City Council uith the City Planning Com:-:1issiol1, incorporating it \'li tit ,neeting with :.':r. :~einer's associate, .'!r. Richard Bend~r, on the co:ning :.ionday, :'~ovember 26tll at 5: 30 P.:'!. at Ci ty Hall. Tile meetin6 \-las adjourned at \,):50 P..,i. Jack ,~alls, Secretary Recorded by Bette .:alla=.,her