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HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.apz.19620313 JOINT MEETING OF THE ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSIONS OF THE CITY OF ASPEN & COUNTY OF PITKIN Tuesday, March 13, 1962 Present from the two Boards were: Ken Moore, Herbert Bayer, Jim Marka1unas, Jack Walls, Frank Willoughby, Fritz Benedict, Fred Glidden, Sam Caudill, Henry Stein. Other persons who attended the meeting were: John Herron, Harold Johnson, Jim Moore, Richard Lai, Waddy Catchings, Rob Roy, Edgar Stanton, Harold Lash, Bud Leitner, Bill Clark, Bi1 Dunaway, Sam Howell. Mr. Bayer called the meeting to order at 7:40 P.M. As there were many persons at the meeting who were not members of the two Boards, Mr. Bayer asked Mr. Moore to state the reason for having invited them. Mr. Moore stated that he felt there must be public participation in the planning meetings; that t~ere should be more work put upon planning; and that he wante!! to show Mr. Bayer that the public is interested. Mr. Bayer stated that there had been a specific agenda for this first joint meeting, but would explain to those present the background of the proposed planning. He stated that both zoning boards have known that zoning is only the second stage, but that zoning had to be instituted without a major plan because Aspen was not then ready toaccept planning. They have established regulations to prevent the worst from happening to the area. We did not have a plan. Now the Planning Commission has found someone through the Institute who has given $5,000 toward hiring a professional planner if the city and county will match this contribution. Though $10,000 is not enough,it is a satisfactory start. Mr. Bayer wanted to know if the two Boards want to stand solidly behind planning for the entire region. He also explained what is necessary to develop a plan; that it is a professional job and that the Boards could assist in compiling data for a future plan. If there is no plan, soon Aspen will develop as a jumble - we need overall guidance in the growth of the community. Mr. Moore stated that the loss of time in planning worried him; that there is a great deal of information available at the present time and that the citizens should get data compiled to aid the planner when he comes. Mr. Stein raised the question as to whether the money was available for such a start, and Mr. Moore stated that it would be mostly voluntary; that each had a sphere of influence and could contribute within it. Mr. Bayer stated that no one has been afraid to talk planning; that now we have $5,000 and will ask the minimum amount of what the total cost will be, and expect to be able to raise supple- mentary moneys, but one cannot institute planning without the consent of the governments under which it is to be instituted. He thinks the City and County will make the effort to raise the money and that it will be a great mistake if we begin to collect facts, not knowing what facts will be needed, etc. We have to aid a planner, but in a reasonable way, as it is a profeSSional job. The work must be guided and handled by the planner. Mr. Glidden stated that the Zoning Boards have been working with the Trafton Bean office for some time. There was discussion on what the planning should encompass, and it was decided that as the boundaries of the city and county are not in any way related to geographic boundaries, that the fringe areas should be within the city planning, khe lines dividing the two were merely political lines. This, Mr. Glidden stated, was the reason for calling of the Joint Meeting of the City and County Zoning Boards. Mr. Bayer stated that they wanted to get the full approval of the two Boards to pursue the idea of a plan for the region of Aspen and vicinity. He said that the proposal of a planner has been made to both the City and the County; planners have been investigated, and one has been asked to come to Aspen for an interview. But any plan must be flexible. Mr. Benedict stated that in five years a permanent planner might be necessary. Mr. Stein stated that a planner could not be considered until the citizens of the area were ready. - 2 - Mr. Bayer stated that it took many years to get the two Zoning Boards and to get zoning, and that now it is high time to do something about a plan; that this is the last moment we can do any good for the city with a plan; that it is an urgent matter. Mr. Bayer estimated that a preliminary plan might be done in six months, and that another year might be necessary for a compre- hensive plan. This would depend on the cooperation of the community - also on how extensive the plan is. Mr. Herron stated that there are three main economies in Aspen: the Ski Corporation, the Institute and the Music Associates, and that any plan should be utilized to enhance these three phases. This was, of course, agreed to by all, but it has been suggested that perhaps the economy of Aspen should be more diversified so as not to be entirely dependent upon the tourist trade. Mr. Lash suggested that the convention trade be encouraged; and a convention hall might save Aspen economically in the summer. Mr. Moore again urged that the citizens present spread the word around booking planning. The joint meeting of the then begun at 9:00 P.M. the City Board were read Planning and Zoning Commissions was The minutes of the January meeting of and approved. Mr. Bayer stated that Mr. Robert Anderson has offered to help in talking with oil company officials with regard to their signs. With relation to disposing of the water coming off the mountain, Mr. Moore stated that he was writing to the Forest Service for information and aid. Mr. Bayer commended this action. Mr. Humphrey stated that the contract on the streets program had been ~ranted to Frank Ray; that the city has paid $7400 of which 34400 will be reimbursed to the City; and that this outfit is holding up the program. Should have final decision on Mill Street very soon. Mr. Glidden stated that the reason for calling the joint meeting of the two Zoning and Planning Boards was to get the feeling on planning, and that it was only logical for the two Boards to make decisions together. Mr. Bayer asked the opinions of the members of the City Board on planning, and they were unanimously in favor of it. Mr. Glidden asked for a vote from the County Board members, and they were also unanimously in favor. Mr. Bayer felt we should make a statement to the City Council and County Commissioners to the effect that both Boards were solidly behind a plan. There followed a discussion of a letter which was directed to the City Zoning Board with relation to having a narrow gauge railroad car put next to the present Chamber of Commerce building to be used as additional office space. It was felt that the Chamber should approach its space problem in some other manner; that they shoUld seek other permanent quarters; and it was the consensus that the Commissions did not approve of the railroad car for this purpose. Thereafter the two Boards displayed the maps which would be available for their joint use in planning. Mr. Moore requested a schedule of maps which will be needed for presentation to the City Council, for their information. Meeting was adjourned at 10:40 P.M. Jack Walls, Secretary Recorded by: Bette Gallagher )1 { January 11, 1962 Mr. Daniel V. BctllUlI4eora 10.,54 Aapeo, 00101'_0 Dear Mr. Bdllllll4eool OIl bebalf of tba Aapeo Plunilll aIl4 ZoaiDa c-t..iora I want to .xprue a,preeiatwD aIl4 thaka for your thouahtful aM g.aaroue lift towaEde the p1anti.. of tre.e. I hope tbat J'OU will eooo e.. iIIprovaMota ill tba appearuc. of our etraaU. Si_rely, BBlm cc: Mr. Jack Walls