HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.drac.19970227DESIGN REVIEW APPEALS COMMITTEE FEBRUARY 27, 1997
Chairperson Steve Buettow called the special meeting to order at 4:05 p.m. with
members Gilbert Sanchez, Roger Moyer, and Dave Johnston present. Members
Bob Blaich and Jake Vickery were excused.
Other staff present were David Hoefer, Sara Thomas, Mitch Haas, Amy Amidon and
Julie Ann Woods.
377 SILVERLODE DRIVE
David Hoefer asked the applicant if the notice was posted 5 days prior to the
hearing. David Panico said it was noticed. Hoefer expressed the committee had
jurisdiction to proceed.
Sara Thomas, staff, stated the applicant requested a waiver from the Ordinance 30
Standard to the garage setback requirement. She explained this was an uphill lot
and visibility from the street is very minimal.
David Panico, architect for the applicant (Alice Brien), stated the lots were
minimally buildable lots in this subdivision. He said the access points were tortured
at the downhill side of any of the grades. Panico said there would probably be other
requests similar to this one because of the steep slopes. He noted for the garage to
meet the intent of Ordinance 30 a vast amount of excavation in the front yard would
be necessary to get the driveway low enough to gain access to it. This would also
create a “pit” in the front yard and the residence was about half of the allowable
FAR.
Roger Moyer asked if this was part of Williams Ranch and was a photo available for
the approach to the site. Panico said it was part of the Williams Ranch and supplied
a photo. Moyer questioned the only approach to the house being underneath. He
asked if the garage was protruding from the house or was there a portion of the
house above it. Panico said the portion was above it and the site plan shows the one
story garage with a deck on top. He said the entry is on top of the garage. Moyer
said the application did not seem sufficient.
Gilbert Sanchez asked why the garage was located in the center of the lot because it
seems like a large amount of excavation. Panico said he was trying to break the
house into two separate elements because the house has no yard and this was a way
to create an exterior private area.
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Moyer asked the commission and staff how these Williams Ranch lots would be
handled since there would be more of the requests to this committee. Panico
explained the design is almost dictated by the restraints of the site and the top of the
roof would be all that would be seen from the street.
Dave Johnston said this clearly does not meet Ordinance 30 but questioned the
appropriateness of the height on the site. Steve Buettow asked if the driveway
already existed. Panico said it was already cut in as part of the plat. Buettow stated
there were three elements, two of which were very nice and one garage protrusion.
He noted the garage being seen first, was one of the reasons that Ordinance 30 came
about. Panico noted the garage was turned at an angle so it is not the first thing that
you see but rather the main element of the residence is seen.
Sanchez agreed with Johnston about the impact not being significant. He said the
excavation in front of the bedroom window seemed unnecessary because it was the
only flat area on the site.
Buettow said the presence of the street scape with a dominant garage in front is for
this committee to decide to approve or not. Panico commented there were
extenuating circumstances regarding this house and Williams Ranch with a
convoluted evolution of Ordinance 30. Sara Thomas explained the free-market
portion of Williams Ranch is not subject to Ordinance 30 as it applies to floor area,
however it is subject as far as the design review standards. Unfortunately this was
not clarified when David Panico brought in a permit for the lot next door and it went
through without having the design review standards applied to it. Thomas brought
this to Panico’s attention, but he was three days away from submission. Panico
stated that the person has to be in the residence by October 1.
MOTION: Dave Johnston recommended the Design Review Appeal
Committee waive the standard that the garage must be setback ten feet
from the facade of the house for the property located 377 SilverLode
Drive, finding that criteria “c” has been met. Gilbert Sanchez second.
Roger Moyer, Dave Johnston, Gilbert Sanchez for, Steve Buettow
against. MOTION APPROVED 3-1.
533 WEST SMUGGLER
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Gilbert Sanchez stepped down on this issue. David Hoefer stated the applicant
supplied notice which complied with the jurisdictional requirements of this
committee and may proceed.
Mitch Haas, staff, explained there was an oversight in the packet and the elevations
included are incorrect and the revisions are replaced in the new handout. He said
the “inflection standard” of Ordinance 30 which deals with one story elements of an
existing structure and the element of a proposed adjacent structure. Staff felt that all
elements of the proposed structure next door to an existing one story structure
should also be one story for a distance of 12’ toward the opposite lot line.
Haas stated if a standard is up for interpretation, it would be best to refer to how
that standard has been applied in the past. He referenced Jan Derrington’s model to
show where the one and two story elements are used. He pointed out the portion of
the house (model) that does not meet that standard.
Janver Derrington, architect for applicant, stated there was at least one project that
was approved. He said a duplex at 1225 Snowbunny Lane went through after
Ordinance 30 was adopted. He commented that the interpretation seems to have
evolved since then. Derrington expressed the open area and two story element (a
stair tower) with steep pitched roofs which is encouraged by Ordinance 30. He
noted the footprint of the house is much smaller than the one next door that occupies
three lots. He said that since the lot has huge spruce trees, the house is in scale in
that setting. He felt that the application of the standard complied with the
reasonable intent.
Moyer asked for photos of the entire block. Derrington supplied the photos with the
opposite side of the street also. He said there were 4 lots in this Carrish
Subdivision. Moyer said the verticality of the house is still unique to that block. so,
at present it is out of character and even with a new house on the corner.
Buettow asked if the corner lot house would be demolished. Derrington stated that
it would and since the lot had such huge trees on it, the new structure would
probably be vertical also. Buettow asked if they were at the maximum height with
this house. Derrington replied that they were slightly below the maximum height
with the cupola. Haas stated the real intent of this standard was so that a new house
did not “loom” over the adjacent house by size and scale. Johnston said from the
model the entry looked very small with the two masses on either side. he
commented that the mass down-played the entry.
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Amy Amidon gave background on Ordinance 30. She said that this was one of the
very few provisions (especially in the West End) to protect Victorians from
becoming overwhelmed by the new construction. She stated that the interpretation
should not be changed across the board for this standard.
Moyer responded that this is the reason we have Ordinance 30 and it does not meet
the standard. Buettow said that when Ordinance 30 was originally discussed the
“inflection” referred to street scape.
MOTION: Roger Moyer moved that the Design Review Appeals
Committee find the design as proposed does not comply with standard
26.58.020(B) of the Aspen Municipal Code and must be redesigned to
comply with said standard. Dave Johnston second.
Dave Johnston and Roger Moyer voted to approve and Steve Buettow
denied. MOTION, APPROVED TO DENY 2-1.
Moyer asked Amidon if the applicant could come up with a solution without a
complete re-design. Amidon answered if the applicant could find one of the three
standards to comply with then maybe a compromise could be achieved. Haas stated
they would work with the applicant. Derrington asked if the roof element was the
reasonable approach because he was not sure what was expected. Johnston did not
mean it as a directive, but was open to any discussion. Moyer noted it was up to the
applicant and not to this committee to re-design. Derrington asked if the element
had to be inward 12’ all the way from the side yard to the back of the garage area.
Buettow believed that was the motion. Moyer said that the project should take on
the character of the block and asked if the material to be used was stucco.
Derrington affirmed. Moyer felt stucco did not lend itself to the character of Aspen.
Amidon said that if they met with staff, and the re-design met the standard, the
applicant would not have to come before this committee again.
926 EAST DURANT - BRASS BED
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Steve Buettow stepped down. David Hoefer asked for the posting of the notice.
Augie Reno, Architect for Silverstream, provided the notice. Hoefer stated that the
notice met the requirements and the committee had jurisdiction to proceed.
Julie Ann Woods, staff, explained the Brass Bed Lodge has been an on-going project
that was recently approved by the Board of Adjustment for a carport at the rear of
the property. She continued that they were also approved by the City P & Z for a
change in use (from 29 units to 6 units) and a voluntary ADU. She said they wanted
to make some changes to the exterior elevations of the existing building and realized
that the building did not comply. The window standard and the height measurement
were the reasons for the Ordinance 30 Review. Woods stated the building is non-
conforming to the Ordinance 30 height standard and the way that height is
measured.
Hoefer stated that this committee could review the height standard even though the
building existed prior to Ordinance 30. Moyer said since this committee could
review the height standard, then the applicant would not have to go before the Board
of Adjustment.
Woods commented the changes to the building will make it look more residential,
adding more windows.
Reno introduced Rob Tobias, Silverstream Representative, and noted the building
has been vacant since it was constructed 8 or 9 years ago. He said the project will
enhance the neighborhood once completed. Reno said in 5 or 6 areas the glass
exceeds the 9’ and 12’ band area. He noted the property has nice views and the big
band on the building blocks the views. Reno commented the purpose of Ordinance
30 was to prevent the large plate glass walls from the 1st floor to the 3rd floor. He
said the amount of glass proposed, 3’ would be the maximum with those elements
broken up by the balconies and the band. Reno stated that the glazing does not start
until 9’ from the floor and is only 8’ of glass. He said the window does not start at
the floor but about 3’ above. He noted that the elements occur on portions of the
building that are significantly setback from the property line. He said the
relationship between pedestrian and building are from 30’ to 48’ apart.
Reno stated the building is linear with two horizontal wings and a simple gable roof.
He said the building has a strong mass (almost institutional) and they want to break
up the mass with the 6 gables in question (adding vertical). Reno said this existing
building was brought into non-conformity by Ordinance 30 and felt that was a
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hardship. He noted they do not want to add to that non-conformity but are trying to
relate to the existing ridge of the building. Reno stated from a construction stand
point, also, it is easier to use the existing gables rather than lower them and have to
reconstruct the entire building. Reno commented there will be new landscaping
also, which will seem to lower the building.
Tobias added that architecturally the gables are the same height as the existing roof
line and seems more gentle. He said the Brass Bed was bought through fore-
closure and wanted to do something other than a lodge. They want to enhance the
neighborhood with a first class project.
Johnston asked what the function was and why the front dormer was so high. Reno
explained it was the fifth unit and faced north. Johnston asked if the ridge was
going to be taller that the existing. Reno replied no, the dormers would go to the
ridge line. Sanchez asked what dormers were above the height restriction. Reno
said approximately 2’ the way Ordinance 30 measures. Sanchez questioned the
balconies provided separation from the tall glass areas. He asked if the balconies
had open railings. Reno said the railing was wood with vertical openings.
Moyer asked the purpose of the building and if it would be condominiumized. Reno
stated there would be 6 two bedroom townhouses and an ADU. Moyer asked if the
glass doors would be taller. Reno answered they would not be changed but the
triangulated glass that is being added. He said the upper floor doors will be wider.
Sanchez felt comfortable with the triangle glazing and the south side probably won’t
be seen from the street. He questioned the large gable on the north elevation with
excessive glazing. Sanchez thought even a lower gable would accomplish the
vertical break up of space.
Johnston said the re-design was a welcome relief to what is there now, and the
gables at the ridge line and below the ridge satisfied him. He commented that the
dormer on the north was a little high and liked the look of the project.
Moyer said the south side, the height adjustment was valid. He stated the re-design
was a welcome relief to the current state of the building. He noted the north side
did not affect the street scape and felt the project was well done.
MOTION: Dave Johnston moved that Design Review Appeal
Committee waive the standard that FAR be calculated at 2 for the areas
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in the 9’ to 12’ “no window” zone for the Brass Bed located at 926 East
Durant Avenue finding that criteria “c” applied and further
recommended the height definition of 26.58.040F5 be varied to allow the
existing height non-conformity of this building to continue because the
shell of this building predates Ordinance 30. The height of this building
was in compliance with then existing zoning when the original project
was completed. Gilbert Sanchez second. ALL IN FAVOR, MOTION
APPROVED. 3-0
MINUTES
MOTION: Dave Johnston moved to adopt the minutes of
12/12/96. Seconded by Gilbert Sanchez. ALL IN FAVOR,
MOTION APPROVED . 4-0
Julie Ann Woods stated for the record that Gilbert Sanchez was appointed to
the Design Review Appeals Committee to serve as an alternate. Dave
Johnston becomes a regular member.
Meeting adjourned at 5:35 p.m.
Jackie Lothian, Deputy City Clerk
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533 WEST SMUGGLER ................................ ................................ ................................ ................................ ..... 2
926 EAST DURANT - BRASS BED ................................ ................................ ................................ .................... 4
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