HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.apz.20071002Aspen PlanninE & ZOnfnE Meeting Minutes -October 02, 2007
COMMENTS ............................................................................................................ 2
MINUTES ................................................................................................................. 2
DECLARATION OF CONFLICTS OF INTEREST ............................................... 2
HIGHLANDS GROWTH MANAGEMENT REVIEW .......................................... 3
MOUNTAIN PLAZA BUILDING GROWTH MANAGEMENT AND
ASSOCIATED REVIEWS - 434 E COOPER ......................................................... 3
CODE AMENDMENT ORDINANCE 30 ............................................................. 10
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Brian Speck opened the regular Aspen Planning and Zoning Meeting in Sister
Cities Meeting Room at 4:30. Commissioners Cliff Weiss, Stan Gibbs, LJ
Erspamer and Brian Speck were present. Dylan Johns, Jim DeFrancia and Dina
Bloom were excused. Michael Wampler was absent. Staff present were Chris
Bendon, Jennifer Phelan, Jessica Garrow, Sara Adams, Community Development;
Jim True, Special Counsel; and Jackie Lothian, Deputy City Clerk.
COMMENTS
Jennifer Phelan stated there was a full P&Z now; on Thursday October 4`h from
noon to lpm there would be training with new members or any members who were
interested in attending with the assistant city attorney, David Hoefer, to talk about
ethical issues. Phelan said they would send out an email.
Phelan said that the packets generally go out the Thursday prior to the Tuesday
meeting.
Phelan stated that public hearing have certain protocol and Brian would lead
through tonight's meting. All land use applications have specific review criteria,
which were included in the packets with the application and staff memo.
Chris Bendon said that Jennifer Phelan will be the contact for P&Z and Chris
Bendon served the City Council.
MINUTES
LJ Erspamer wanted the correction to the minutes from the August 7`h meeting to
include "not a sales tax district" to make sure that there was not a civic assessment
to the Lift One approval. Erspamer, regarding the Episcopal Church, wanted the
minutes (page 3 after the first paragraph) to include in his statement that the old
building would have to be extended because the trees out front would not be cut
down per Parks. Erspamer asked if some of the language regarding the
encroachment into the alley could be modified to elaborate on the implications of
RLUIPA. Jim True stated that he was reviewing the minutes and would address
the actual discussion, if appropriate.
MOTION.• LJErspamer moved to approve the minutes from August 21, 2007;
seconded by Brian Speck. APPROVED.
DECLARATION OF CONFLICTS OF INTEREST
None stated.
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PUBLIC HEARING:
HIGHLANDS GROWTH MANAGEMENT REVIEW
Brian Speck opened the public hearing for the Highlands Growth Management
Review. Notice was provided. Jessica Garrow said the applicant's representative,
Glenn Hom, requested the hearing be continued to October 16`h. The reason for
the continuance was that staff requested some additional information of how those
spaces were intended to be used regarding the nature of the condominium meeting
room spaces within all of Highlands, which would include this space that was
under consideration and the other condo meeting space within the PUD. Garrow
said that it was requested that the applicant clarify the growth management
calculations that were done within this application with relation to how they were
calculated in the PUD.
MOTION: LJErspamer moved to continue the Highlands Growth Management
Review to October 16`h; seconded by Brian Speck. All in favor, APPROVED.
PUBLIC HEARING:
MOUNTAIN PLAZA BUILDING GROWTH MANAGEMENT AND
ASSOCIATED REVIEWS - 434 E COOPER
Brain Speck opened the public hearing on 434 East Cooper. Jennifer Phelan
provided the proof of notice. Phelan stated the application was to demolish the
existing commercial office building and replace it with a mixed use building that
contains sub-grade parking, commercial on the first and second floors as well as
affordable housing on the second floor and free market residential on the third
floor. The application was submitted for the initial review in March 2006 so based
on that date the application was in the pipeline from March 2006; if the rules
change from March 2006 to today the applicant has the ability to stay with the
rules that were in place in March 2006. Phelan said that since this time the
moratorium was in place and growth management was affected by the way growth
management happens.
Phelan said that the changes to growth management were on an annual basis for
free market and commercial net leaseable space; everyone would submit on a
certain date, the first one in was the first one to be review and first up for those
allotments. Phelan said that with the moratorium Council said that would not
guarantee the best project was the first in line for allotments; there were a limited
number of allotments for the different uses. Phelan said the growth management
was changed so there was now an annual cap on free market allotments, net
leaseable, additional lodging pillows were added and an over all cap for affordable
housing but not a yearly cap and the growth management review was now based
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on a scoring system. The new scoring was based on 3 criteria: affordable housing;
green building and small lodge development. Phelan said this project scored points
because they proposed to be at a Silver LEEDS project and the affordable housing
units were bigger than required and 2 were a lower category than required. This
was the first project in the queue for growth management allotments.
Phelan noted the project was located in the commercial core zone district and the
commercial core historic district, which means HPC reviewed the project for the
design, pedestrian amenity, view plane issues and received approval through HPC
Resolution #26-06. This project was before P&Z for the three growth management
reviews; redevelop the commercial component of the building, to build 3 new
affordable housing units and 3 new free market units and a recommendation of
subdivision approval to City Council. Phelan said the growth management reviews
were final at Planning & Zoning.
Phelan said the application met all of the dimensional requirements of the
commercial core that were in place March 2006; the applicants were at or below
the height, setback requirements, unit sizes and floor area ratios. Phelan said that
with regard to the growth management reviews staff found there were sufficient
allotments available for this project for free market, affordable housing and the net
leaseable space. By providing affordable housing within the city and within the
urban growth boundary and providing a choice of travel modes since this was in
the downtown core, staff finds compliance with the AACP. The building meets the
dimensional standards and has received conceptual approval. The mitigation
requirements were met for the commercial and residential component (explained in
detail in the staff report); the commercial component was working off an existing
credit from the current building. The free market was providing the three
affordable housing units, which was 30% of the required net livable of the free
market components, which exceeded the requirement because they were providing
more than the 1800 square feet; they were providing 2241 square feet. All of the
units were required to be above grade and were above grade; the affordable
housing units were required to be mitigated at category 4 and one unit was a
category 4 and two units were deed restricted at category 2. On page 18 subsection
d of the packet "with regard to affordable housing the code says they shall be for
sale units but they may be rentals"; the applicant requested the units be rentals and
city staff and housing staff recommended that the units be for sale units. The
application meets all the review criteria for growth management and meets the
criteria for subdivision because there were utilities available for service with
existing infrastructure and was consistent with the Aspen Area Comprehensive
Plan and staff recommended approval of the growth management reviews and
recommendation of approval for the subdivision.
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Phelan noted that in the resolution in this packet there were two choices for the
affordable housing units; for sale or rental units. The planning commission needed
to make the choice, which should stay in the resolution. LJ Erspamer asked if they
were under the guidelines of the previous code yet they came to this commission
because they were the highest grade; the scoring system was the only new issue
that staff judged this by. Jennifer Phelan replied that was correct and with the
moratorium ending there was a new growth management system review. Erspamer
asked if the points were used for "for sale" or "rental" units. Phelan responded that
the units "for sale" or "rental" had nothing to do with the point system. Stan Gibbs
asked why staff preferred "for sale" units. Phelan replied the wording said "they
shall be for sale units" and does give the option for "rentals" and encourages
lodging projects have rentals for employee needs; staff went with the language
"shall be for sale units" and there was a referral from housing staff that they prefer
that affordable housing units "be for sale versus rental units". Gibbs asked if there
was a philosophical statement that "for sale units" do a better job of bringing
people into the community on a permanent basis. Phelan responded that for
housing "for sale units" were easier to manage and keep track of than the rentals.
Phelan stated there was a need for both rentals and for sale units in the community.
Mitch Haas, planning representative for the applicant, Burt Bidwell Investment
Corporation and Haas introduced John Rowland from Rowland + Broughton
Architects. Haas stated they were happy with the staff review and
recommendations. Haas said the application was for a project that exceeds every
goal the city asks for and should be approved as is. Haas said that they have not
used all of the allowable floor area and were under the allowable height limit at
about 39 feet; they were at 82% of the free market floor area (7,392 square feet).
There were 3 free market units and 3 affordable housing units; the categories were
a one bedroom category 2 with 701 net livable square feet, one studio category 2
unit with 530 square feet net livable and the third was a 2 bedroom category 4 unit
with 1010 square feet. Haas said that the affordable housing provided a mix of
income ranges and unit types; these units were located on the second floor and
were integrated with the free market uses in the building; they share the same
lobbies, stairs, elevators and directly across from the second floor office space.
Haas said that they have committed to be a minimum LEED certification at the
Silver level and they know there were a lot of available points in the LEED scoring
criteria.
Haas said the sub-grade parking level was accessed from the alley off of an auto-
lift, which was really the only way on a 9022 square foot lot to get down to the
sub-grade with 11 parking spaces; the required parking was actually only 1'/z
spaces because there was no parking required in the Commercial Core for a Mixed
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Use building for residential uses and the parking requirement was for 1 space per
1,000 square feet of net leaseable. Haas said there were 10500 square feet of net
leaseable square feet but the code allowed a deficit in parking to be carried from
the existing location so there were only 1'/z parking spaces required but they have
provided 11.
Haas said they have proposed the rental of the affordable housing units because
they were within a mixed use building, across the hall from office uses. Haas said
the housing office and P&Z approved rental units in mixed use buildings for the
Stage Three Project, The Ajax Mountain Building and the Jerome Professional
Building. Haas said that there should be rental units in this mixed use project and
they have done everything properly; if the rental units were out of compliance for a
year then all of the units go to ownership through the housing lottery.
John Rowland, architect, said that there were two meetings with historical
preservation and they listened very carefully and made some minor alternations
with success. Rowland said that they looked at their design principals with respect
to the historic patterns of Aspen; modern interpretations of architecture within the
core; transition from historic neighbors (the Red Onion and Aspen Block
Buildings); creating a building that has multiple modules that reduces the mass and
scale; contemporary use of materials and detailing and implementing green
sustainable building practices as much as possible and plan to exceed what the city
asked for. Rowland said they began with the archives from the Historical Society
to study photographs of the Tomkins Hardware Store, which was where the
Bidwell Building sits and how that building (Tompkins) came out to the corner.
Rowland said there were a lot of tampered corners throughout town and they
measured those corners and feel that this project was proportionate with this
segment.
Rowland utilized site plans and floor plans to show how the corner holds the edge
of that downtown street in working with the historic patterns of downtown Aspen;
the corner of the entry will have a contemporary element above the entry. There
were 11 spaces in the garage with one suitable for a handicap van; there were the
same number of storage units for the affordable and free market units; there was
retail storage and a large mechanical room. The second level had the office space,
which would be subdivided, and three affordable housing units. The third level
had the three free-market units accessed through a courtyard similar to the
Kandycom Building with water efficient landscaping and each unit will have their
own entry point. An HPC recommendation was to step back two units, which was
very successful. Only one of the free-market units had access to the rooftop, which
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would be a green roof with the LEED consultant working with them for
certification.
Rowland said the predominant building materials were red brick to work with the
historic core, buff sandstone as the base cornice line and some metal that will bring
out the contemporary, which will work with the context around it. Haas noted that
the final selection of materials had to be worked out with HPC and final review.
Haas said there would be a green rooftop and all new street trees.
Cliff Weiss asked if the one unit that had access to the rooftop would have deck
chairs that would be visible. Haas replied that no because the deck was setback a
good distance into the center of the building and from the street and sidewalk you
would see the parapet. Weiss asked if the retail space would be large enough for a
restaurant or was it strictly dry goods. Haas said they were going to finish the
building to enable restaurant use with proper ventilation, flues and grease traps.
Weiss complimented the building design and asked if HPC was concerned about
public access space. Rowland said HPC was not particularly concerned because it
was all on the mall, which was ari enormous pedestrian amenity. Haas explained
that on redevelopment if you are under 10% pedestrian amenity then the applicant
may provide cash-in-lieu; the existing comes in under 10% because most of it
doesn't count with it up a few steps or down in a hole or covered by an arcade.
Haas said that the feeling was that the Guido's Building and Paradise Bakery
Building had the setback corners and the relationship was with the Independence
Square Building and the pedestrian malls.
LJ Erspamer asked about the alleyway and anticipated any traffic problems with
the access to the garage downstairs. Haas responded that they worked with the
design of the garage and the loading area to make sure the turning radius worked.
Rowland provided a plan of the garage setback. Erspamer asked what will they do
about delivery trucks who park in the alley half of the day. Haas answered the
existing building only has 3 parking spaces and not much of a loading area so it
has been that way and the city has restrictions on delivery times. Rowland said
that inherently it will make delivery trucks pull into the alley and minimize the
congestion. Haas said they were careful to put the trash and loading as far in to the
west as they could go on the alley and were not pushing out into Galena. Erspamer
said with the deluge of rain and asked if they designed something to prevent the
basement from being flooded and the sewer from backing up. Haas replied the real
reason the sewer has been backed up according to a memo from the Aspen
Consolidated San District was that the lines weren't put in deep enough and
because of gravity feed on the sewer line, the sewer backs up when there is a lot of
rain; when the sewer lines are rebuilt they will be to ACSD specifications and
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engineered accordingly. Haas stated there would be a lot less run off on this new
building with the green roof to help store that storm water before it goes into the
drains. Erspamer asked if there was parking for employee housing units. Haas
replied there were 11 spaces and they haven't gotten to that detail yet; the free-
market units were not specified yet either. Erspamer said even though he has a lot
of questions the project should be commended. Erspamer asked where the
materials would be staged when the construction takes place. Haas responded that
was a difficult question and they haven't completely figured it out yet; they will
prepare a construction management plan before a building permit will be issued.
Erspamer asked if the request for story poles by this commission was out of their
purview because it was established by a previous commission. Phelan replied that
P&Z was not under the purview of design review and it would be the HPC.
Erspamer asked what the height from floor to ceiling was. Rowland replied that
the first go round was at 11 feet and HPC asked for the height so they are now at
14 feet floor to floor with 18 inches of structure. Erspamer asked what the city
counts as a pedestrian amenity. Haas said from ground to sky without roof
overhangs or arcades and not more than 18 inches below grade. Phelan said that
the sunken spaces were not viable as pedestrian amenities so the code was changed
to require public amenity space to be at grade; standards were created and the
sunken spaces do not count as pedestrian amenities now even though they did at
the time they were built. Erspamer asked the height of the Independence Square
Building and this building. Phelan replied the Independence Square was 42 feet
and this one was 39 feet. Rowland said the comer that was directly opposite was
37 feet; there was a 3 foot grade change. Erspamer said that he had concerns that
this building would overshadow the Independence Square and this project was like
a box and runs right up to the sidewalk without any public gathering places; he said
this would be a wonderful spot to have a little room for the public according to the
Aspen Area Community Plan. Haas said that many of the important building in
town were on corner locations, which tend to be taller with a big corner presence;
the HPC Guidelines talk about corner lots should be prominent buildings so that's
what they set out to achieve.
Weiss said he also wanted the pedestrian amenity but that was not the P&Z
purview.
Erspamer asked if the mechanical went above the height of the roof. Haas
answered the mechanical was in the basement and the elevator doesn't go up to the
roof. Erspamer asked if the lift for the garage would make a lot of noise as far as
the tenants and employee housing. Haas replied that lifts were in use all over the
world.
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Chris Bendon stated that this project has been through design review and has to
address a lot of these issues; he suggested the commission focus on the criteria
provided.
Erspamer asked if they would attract community assets into the new building, such
as the eye doctor that was located there. Haas replied that the second floor was
office space.
Stan Gibbs asked if other buildings in town have used this "green roof'. Haas
responded that not yet but in Chicago they were everywhere. Haas said the Stage
Three will have a partial "green roof'.
Brian Speck asked if there was a rooftop elevator. Haas replied there was nothing
that went up to the rooftop and there were no ADA requirements. Speck asked if
there were any lift garages in the valley. Haas answered that one was being built at
Stage Three but he did not know of any others.
Public Comments:
1. Toni Kronberg spoke about the perceived view plane of the neighborhood
and the moratorium and what the community feels about redevelopment.
Kronberg gave the history of this building site and spoke about the corner and open
space.
2. Gary Morrie, manager of Helly Hansen, asked what was going on with the
retail spaces that were currently in the building. Morrie said that it was usually
UPS and Fed Ex park in the alleyway. Phelan replied that the lease issues were
private issues.
Brian Speck asked if delivery trucks could go down to the garage. Rowland
replied that a handicap van can go into the garage.
Erspamer said that someone in community informed him that this was the second
busiest intersection in the community and he thought the mall would be very busy
and eventually expand the mall area. Erspamer said the Information Booth was a
permanent structure per Debbie at the Chamber said Erspamer. Erspamer said that
the bricks and design were good for the downtown area but at this corner it was to
overbearing on the community.
Weiss said that the commission was here to look at growth management and not
design.
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Gibbs thanked the applicant and said this was a nice project and glad that it
exceeded the guidelines. Gibbs asked if there were numbers from the AACP of
rental versus for sale units. Phelan replied that there was target of how many
affordable housing units and how many people the city wants to house but there
was not a specific on the proportion of rental to for sale units. Phelan said that it
was the purview of the commission on rental versus for sale.
Speck commended the applicant on the project and understood some of the
concerns from LJ.
MOTION: Cliff Weiss moved to approve Resolution #26 series 2007 approving
with conditions the three Growth management Reviews under the purview of the
Planning Commission including requiring the affordable housing units to be rental
units and deleting Section S.B(1) of the resolution and renumbering Section S.B(2)
and recommending that City Council approve the subdivision request of the
Mountain Plaza Building to construct amixed-use structure on the property known
as 434 E. Cooper Avenue. Seconded by Stan Gibbs. Erspamer, no; Gibbs, yes;
Weiss, yes; Speck, yes. APPROVED 3-1.
Discussion: Erspamer said the Aspen Area Community Plan was ambiguous at
best but it does talk about pedestrian amenities and public gathering places and this
application does not provide that. Weiss said that he agreed with LJ about public
amenities space but that was not the commission's purpose here today. Speck also
had concerns about the open space for the public.
PUBLIC HEARING:
CODE AMENDMENT ORDINANCE 30
Brian Speck opened the public hearing. Sara Adams, historic preservation planner
for the city, provided a new Resolution #27, which was an elaboration of what has
been changed in the resolution. Public notice was provided.
Cliff Weiss stated that he lived at 1280 Snowbunny Lane and his house was built
in 1955 but was dramatically renovated two years ago. Jim True said that Cliff
was not on the list. Stan Gibbs said that his house was on the historic list already.
Sara Adams stated that Ordinance 30 was passed as an emergency ordinance on
July 10`h to identify and protect potential historic resources. Basically all buildings
in the city limits that were 30 years and older must go through a preliminary
review with Com Dev staff to look at the building and if it potentially met the
criteria for historic designation. The designation hearing starts at HPC who makes
a recommendation to City Council then there were two hearings at City Council
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(15` and 2"d reading of an ordinance). If Com Dev staff determined that the
property did not meet the criteria for designation then the property owner would be
issued a certificate that was good for five years (a certificate of no historic
significance). Adams noted that for five years they could pull a building permit or
demo the house. There were time constraints of 30 days on this review to respond
to the homeowners if they met the potential to be historic or no a certificate that
they were not historic.
Adams stated there were numerous work sessions with City Council and the Aspen
Citizens Group and Staff discussing the Ordinance and if was working. Three
main issues were (1) the creation of a specific list, (2) the idea of a super majority
to designate without owner consent and (3) incorporating an economic hardship
review into the designation hearings. P&Z is asked to make a recommendation to
City Council in order to amend the land use code.
Adams said that properties will be added to this list for 10 years after the adoption
of this Ordinance and there were less than 100 properties on this list. A super
majority was a majority plus one that was needed to support a recommendation to
City Council by HPC. City Council cannot have a super majority vote because it
conflicts with the City Charter so it would have to go to a public vote to allow a
super majority at City Council. The economic hardship was incorporated into the
designation hearings (page 4 #6) and (page 5 #6). Jim True explained that an
economic hardship was different than a takings issue by the evaluation of
expectations and the economic hardship may be individually driven. Cliff Weiss
said that it could be an economic hardship being put on this list against their will
with lawyers fees ect. Adams said that at the request of the property owner the
City will establish a hearing officer and a joint report prepared by the historic
preservation officer (Amy Guthrie) and the City Attorney; that memo would be
responding to the property owner. Weiss said there was nothing that would
reimburse the homeowner for the legal expenses that they will go through. Adams
replied in this amendment no. LJ Erspamer asked if there was a timeline to object
before you cannot object anymore. Adams said the Exhibit A was the list going
before City Council for second reading on October 22"a. Jim True said there was
no deadline to object once placed on the list.
Adams said that HPC recommended that City Council discuss the economic
hardship. Adams stated that they were just voting on the changes, which were in
bold underlines and in red.
Stan Gibbs asked why 10 years. Adams replied that came up at City Council
during an Ordinance 30 discussion. Gibbs said that any property that was 29 years
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today could not be added to the list for 10 years and was that what was intended to
have properties that old. Adams said that they thought about that because
Ordinance 30 was a blanket ordinance and at the direction of City Council they
have come back with this 10 year idea of narrowing the scope to a list. Gibbs
asked if there were any studies that correlate the historic status with a decrease in
value. Adams said that she has come across some studies that relate to historic
districts but not specific landmarks, which actually had a higher value in New
York than buildings that weren't in a historic district. Adams said these changes
would not change the permitted uses on the property. Chris Bendon said the
criteria for that section were for both changes to the zone district map or changes to
the text of the land use code.
Public Comments:
1. Marilyn Marks stated that she was heavily involved with reviewing
Ordinance 30 and involved with the Aspen Citizens Group; she doesn't have any
property involved in this but was interested from a good government standpoint.
Adams distributed Marilyn Marks responses to the fundamental community
principal, immediate Ordinance 30 Revisions, Exhibit A and from 9.10.07 Council
minutes. Marks said there was a gap between the super majority from HPC and
Council. Marks said there were 90 properties but over 500 property owners
because of the condominiums. Adams said there were 88 properties on the list.
2. Jerry Blumberg said that he lived on McSkimming Road and was on the list;
he was against the Ordinance but was for voluntary designation.
Bendon said that waiving the fees would be done. Weiss said that it was onerous
to hit these folks with legal fees if legal fees were reimbursed to the homeowner,
should the homeowner win a delisting case. Gibbs asked what procedurally was the
effect of P&Z denying or voting this down. Phelan responded that it would be a
recommendation of denial that goes to Council to consider that recommendation.
True stated that this gets complicated because there was the emergency Resolution
of Ordinance 30 that was in place; there were people in the public that were
interested in having amendments done rather than repealing it altogether. True
said that the commission could recommend that Ordinance 30 stay as it is with
2000 properties and not the amendments or various changes to the proposed
amendments. Erspamer suggested that they make a motion with caveats that they
continue to work with the citizens group like they have been and that they find an
avenue to create less of a hardship on the protesting, the financial cost of those
protesting and leave it as general as possible without being too specific.
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MOTION.• L,I Erspamer moved to approve Resolution #27, 2007 and the
recommendations of Community Development with the caveat that Community
Development continues to work with the Citizens Group like they have been and
that City Council focuses on avenues to minimize the financial hardship on any
parry that wants to object to the designation. Seconded by Brian Speck. Roll call
vote: Gibbs, yes; Weiss, no; Erspamer, yes; Speck, yes; APPROVED 3-1.
Discussion: Gibbs asked to replace "make less" with minimize in the motion.
Erspamer agreed and S~eck agreed. Phelan noted that this was going to Council
on Tuesday, October 9` ,for first reading.
Adjourned at 7:15,~p.m.
City Clerk.
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