HomeMy WebLinkAboutcoa.cclc.min.01162008COMMERCIAL CORE & LODGING COMMISSION
MINUTES January 16, 2008,
Chairperson, Terry Butler called the meeting to order at 8:30 a.m.
Commissioners in attendance were Bill Dinsmoor, Mark Goodman, Fred
Ayarza, Don Sheeley and John Starr. Excused were Shae Singer and Roger
Haneman.
Parking:
Teny asked Tim Ware, Parking Director if we could come up with some
kind of relieve for parking around the 14 days of XMAS. Is there some way
we can mitigate or be customer friendly rather than towing cars or find extra
places for their cars. Everybody that is in the downtown area was having
problems. Ute City Banque had cones out etc. keeping cars from parking.
Tim said they got the cones out etc. prior to XMAS. Tim pointed out that
we had a ton of snow. By Mountain Chalet three cars that didn't move for
three or four days. There were no permits for the cars and the Streets Dept.
towed the cars.
Tim said one issue is the long standing fund raising events over XMAS and
when they have the events they need extra parking.
Fred asked what we can do way ahead to get things done better. We want to
be ahead of it. Tim said typically we don't ticket. Fred said he lives at the
end of Cooper and many nights during December it is occupied by the UPS
trucks. That complicates the matter worse.
Terry pointed out that we have the Dancing Bear and Limelight under
construction. All the construction has blocked our parking.
Tim said at some point we need to decide if the project should get done or
not.
Terry said at Ute City they leave their cones up over night.
John asked about the construction rules. Tim said there is two hour parking
for construction workers. The Parking Dept. scrutinizes all the construction
vehicles. Tim said he is getting ready for a work session Feb 19`h with city
council. The request would be for mew meters, two hour parking in
residential zones but then you can't re-park. A license plate inventory
system that builds a data base. With these new programs things might be
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alleviated. Tim said there are 300 to 900 cars trying to beat the system
daily. We need a parking system that can expand when it needs too.
Bill suggested certain areas in town could have a jitney bus system to move
people around. Tim said the garage has a punch pass that is $5. Per day.
Bill asked Tim if he needs support for this.
Bill said restaurants employees and owners are filling up and taking the
spaces. They come out and plug the meters.
John asked abut parking on the corners. Tim said we are illegal on the
corners already. You need to be 30 feet from an intersection. You can't
have parking within those 30 feet and we as a city violate that. The storm
drains get parked on and that is becoming an issue.
Terry asked Tim if he thought it appropriate for the board to look at places
for electric cars in the alleys. Tim said he never looked at the alleys but
would be interested in a report from the CCLC.
Don asked if there was a moratorium over XMAS on the construction site.
Tim said yes.
Trisha Nelson, Engineering Department said there aren't specific guidelines
on the books and we are going to council to ask what council wants and see
if they have any ideas. Terry wanted to know how many cars are displaced
due to the construction at the Limelight and Dancing Bear. Trish said about
30 at the Dancing Bear and 15at the Limelight.
Don asked if there was any thought given to identifying angled parking so
people can realize that they have a clue where to park. Tim said he doesn't
want to get into striping the spots.
In front of Zele there are parking meters and the signage needs changed.
Bill said for Terry's situation that have small lodges, can they contract for
three or four spaces in the garage. Tim said there was a bond for the garage
for public parking. You can buy a monthly pass but you can't park there for
more than three days.
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Bill said the use of the alleys for trucks, snow etc. should be re-thought. It
got more complicated when the city came up with recycling. The alleys are
not being used for efficiency and ease.
Don asked Tim what are the short term solutions for parking in the core?
Tim said expanding the paid parking. Durant Street in front of the Mountain
Chalet is not paid parking and should be.
Terry asked if Tim talked to employers about the parking options. Tim said
the TOP program is in effect. They designate transportation etc. and Lynn
Rumbaugh does a great job of communication with companies.
Fred suggested for the short term solution parking should be a priority for
this group. We need to come up with ideas where we can improve it and
collectively we can come up with issues to clean it up.
Motion: John made the motion that the CCLC go to the work session in full
support of the parking department; second by Fred. All in favor, motion
carried.
John suggested there could be a user fee to get into Colorado. Some parts of
Europe have that system and it eliminates congestion. There is a sensor that
calculates when you enter etc.
Fred said we need to find out how the little towns in Europe are doing the
user fee to get into town.
Terry asked Fred to spear head the parking and transportation issues.
Commissioner comments
John requested that the board vote for the vice-chair. Terry asked that it be
delayed until Shae could be present because she is running. The board
agreed. Kathy pointed out that the code has no authorization for proxy
votes. The alternate sits on the board to vote when a regular member is not
present.
John pointed out that he feels part of the committee even if he is not at all of
the meetings. He reads all the minutes and knows what is going on. John
talked about the ice sculptures on the mall In Australia they have some
mechanism of judging the sculptures. Don said he thought Anderson Ranch
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did the judging. John said he feels we should have a peoples choice judging.
He also said the sculptures should remain up and Parks Dept. took them
down. The sculptures are part of our downtown.
Mark said we need to go forward in the budget process to get down lighting
in the core. Mark directed staff to follow up. Mark said the lighting would
be serviced once every ten years. This is obvious about the 80/90 % savings
and should be their calling card. It is about a 15 year payback.
Bill said we also need a comprehensive lighting plan for the holidays.
Terry asked Mark to spear head the down lighting.
Bill said the Winterskol model is dead in the water. It was suggested that
Gay ski week and Winterskol be on the same day. It would rejuvenate the
town. Don said the ACRA has a Winterskol committee and he will bring it
up at the board meeting.
Terry suggested that the CCLC meet with the Winterskol Committee. John
said Don is a member and can follow through.
Bill said he feels the CCLC basically is ineffective. How do we keep
collaborative relationships for a long term strategic plan for our town?
Terry said it is imperative that the CCLC members do pr individually with
our council members. Each one should sit down and reinforce our
relationship and tell them what we are doing.
John suggested that the CCLC meet quarterly with council.
Terry said she is of the opinion that you don't wait for the crisis. We need to
reinforce the foundations with council.
Special events meeting update.
Don said basically Parks would like to see fewer special events in Wagner
Park. Tom is under the impression that the parks should remain green. The
Parks Dept. is doing a master plan. Don said the ACRA said special events
brings people into town. Tom closes the Wagner Park two weeks after Food
and Wine. There was a suggestion to renting tiles for Wagner Park. It
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would cost $250,000 to purchase them but then we have a storage problem.
Jack Johnson said he was opposed to more events and Mick wanted more on
the streets.
Terry pointed out that grass gets wom when you use it. She suggested the
Parks sod after the Food and Wine. Don also recommended that part of
Wagner could have sod.
John said we definitely need to support the big events that come to Aspen.
MOTION: Don moved to adjourn; second by Fred. All in favor, motion
carried.
Meeting adjourned 10:30 a.m.
Kathleen J. Strickland, Chief Deputy Clerk
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