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HomeMy WebLinkAboutcoa.cclc.min.01202010COMMERCIAL CORE & LODGING COMMISSION MINUTES OF JANUARY 20, 2009 Vice-chair, Mark Goodman called the meeting to order at 8:30 a.m. Commissioners in attendance: Andrew Kole, Bill Dinsmoor, Don Sheeley and Mark Zitelli. Excused were Mark Goodman, John Starr and Terry Butler. Staff: Kathy Strickland, Chief Deputy Clerk Drew Alexander, city planner explained that the city would like to add flexibility to our code. Temporary food vending carts are permitted for six month and staff is proposing to let it go a year. It will be going before Planning and Zoning in a few weeks and then onto council. Drew explained that some food carts in resort communities allow special vending permits on public property. Special locations would be set up. The CCLC would be the controller of the permit and review process. Size will be determined, style and length of permit. There are a handful of spots around town where this could work. They would have to be a small cart to avoid the code and operate 3 to six months and be limited to the times that they can be in their location. CCLC would work with the clerks creating locations and regulating it. Drew said staff came up with a few recommended locations: Rio Grande Park, Wagner Park, Ruby Park bus Terminal, Durant Ave/Cooper Ave alley and the Gondola Plaza. Drew said applications would be rated on a point system. Telluride's permit is based on diversity, appearance, quality and safety. They also have a compliance report review. Andrew said on Cooper there are restaurants and why would you use that alley. Bill said the Frick and Bier report suggested using the alleys for improvements for the City. Andrew said the Ruby bus station jumps out. How realistic is it to do a test drive. COMMERCIAL CORE & LODGING COMMISSION MINUTES OF JANUARY 20, 2009 Don said he sees this more in the summer than winter. People are paying high rent and we do not want to compete. Drew said CCLC could require approval of adjacent businesses. Mark said it is a promising idea but there are many issues that need worked out. Bill asked Drew to find out all the barriers that we need to know about. Drew said you can't have open charbroil or open flame and he will meet with Environmental Health. Bill said there are signage issues, lighting and we wouldn't want merchandise to be sold. Andrew said another gut reaction would be Koch Lumber Park in the summer. Andrew said he can name five people that would be opposed to the other locations. Bill agreed with Ruby Park and between 10:00 p.m. to 2:00 p.m. there is a need. Andrew said maybe the Rio Grande would work. Bill said in the past the popcorn wagon had a viable crepe business. Drew said you can allow 10:00 to 2:00 a.m. CCLC can regulate the hours. MOTION: Andrew moved that CCLC assume the responsibility of the vending carts; motion second by Bill. All in favor, motion carried 5-0. Bill said we have experience and should go forward. There are toilet issues and we need to know the regulations on paper products, trash etc. Drew said the intention is to have the cart at one spot and it would be removed at night. Don said we need to get businesses and local restaurants informed. 2 COMMERCIAL CORE & LODGING COMMISSION MINUTES OF JANUARY 20.2009 Don said there are also liability issues. Drew said there are issues of public vs private. The cart would be 3x5 and not motorized. That is the size that would fit in our community. Public, Brad Matthews and Jackie Holden said they are interested in having a cart. Brad said Zanes, Little Annie's, Boogies are not opposed to this kind of business. Brad also pointed out that we are dealing with inclement weather with a cart. Drew said Telluride only has a hand full and it is not a detriment to local businesses. Drew said we want to do a smaller cart to mitigate growth management. Matthew said ever since the popcorn wagon closed we only have New York Pizza for late night. Mark said this is a small opportunity and we should go forward. Drew sad you need to find spots that are not in conflict and will work. Snow polo: Barry Stout, applicant for Snow polo thanked the board for their support. Barry said his ranch is in New Castle. He has a full size polo field with 25 horses. He played in Aspen 14 years ago. The Roaring fork polo club has been doing this over the years and building the events. The first Snow polo was at the St. Moritz and there were 15,000 people in town. You have to be careful with the horses due to the altitude. CCLC helped push this into Wagner Park. We have International sponsors and 301oca1 sponsors. Sister Cities has been the charity for the past 10 years. Don mentioned that he is head of the Sister Cities committee. Barry said Wagner Park is about 1/3 length of a regular polo field which is normally 8 to ten acres. There are four horses on a side. In Wagner we had three horses on a side due to the size of the field. COMMERCIAL CORE & LODGING COMMISSION MINUTES OF JANUARY 20, 2009 Bill said it was well received and a nice crowd and the announcer were also good. Barry said all the sponsors want to be in town. Mark said we want to see the event in Wagner Park next year. Barry said he worked with ZGreen. Barry also said his ranch is affiliated with the Aspen Valley Land Trust. Barry said he has his recycling bins and he personally cleaned and policed the field. Don asked about the grass. Barry said Aspen Skiing Co. groomed the field and towards the end you could see some of the grass coming up. Barry said he is very conscious of what is going on and met with Steve Jurowsky. If seeding is need he will do it in the spring. MOTION: Andrew moved to endorse snow polo in Wagner Park for next year subject to the Parks approval; motion second by Don. Mark said Snow polo is great for downtown Aspen. CCLC sees it adding vitality for downtown and we support it. Motion carried 5-0. Bill said keeping it open to the public is a great idea. Barry said La Hostaria gave away food free. $2,500 was donated to Sister Cities. Meeting adjourned at 10 30 a.m. ,,' '~ _. --- athleen J. Strickland, Chief Deputy Clerk