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HomeMy WebLinkAboutcoa.cclc.min.08042010COMMERCIAL CORE & LODGING COMMISSION MINUTES OF AUGUST 4, 2010 Chairperson,Terry Butler called the meeting to order at 8:30 a.m. Commissioners in attendance were: Bill Dinsmoor, Fred Ayarza, Andrew Kole, Don Sheeley, Mark Zitelli, Mark Goodman and John Starr. Andrew said he was approached by council for comments on the transfer of the liquor license owned by Scott DeGraff. Scott argues that the liquor license has nothing to do with what is in the courts. His good moral character should only reflect on his liquor licenses and he should be able to move forward. Scott owes 4million on restaurant stuff here and owes money on his house. Everything is in his wife's name. The liquor board voted to deny 3-2. Fred commented that he doesn't know which way to go on the issue and is not that well informed to make a judgment. Mark Z said in the restaurant industry his character is fairly negative. Don said CCLC should not be involved. Bill also agreed with Don. John said this issue is none of our business. Mark said Scott is a smooth talking guy and he probably has done shady things to escape financial payments. Aspen art museum (Wienerstube lot) John made the motion that CCLC is opposed to the process that the Art Museum went through with the Ciry; second by Don. This should be forwarded to council and the Art Museum. Discussion: Andrew as a commission this is not the smartest thing to do as we might want to ask council for funding at some time. Don pointed out that the process got ramroded through because of the law suit. Bill asked if anyone knew the financial numbers involved . Andrew said they have pledges for 30 million. 1 COMMERCIAL CORE & LODGING COMMISSION MINUTES OF AUGUST 4, 2010 Bill asked if someone put 20 million in the existing building we would have a great building. They should never have used the Aspen Area Comprehensive Plan as a trump card. Bill suggested that council and staff rewrite the code and not use an ambiguous code. John said to force citizens to get signatures is wrong. Terry said the process is skipped around. Terry said she is a member of the art museum and she never goes there because it is off the beaten path. We need to look at this as a committee. City gave us the right to add the third street for the market. From time to time we ask for funding. This project is written in the sand and in the end it will happen. We will have a few things in the future that we need to go to council so as a committee we should remain neutral on our opinion. If you look at our ground it is wrong to go out on a limb. Individually you can state your opinion. We are on the good side of government and we need to stay there. John said a lot of his ire is from the approval of the Limelight in which many concessions were made by the city. Vote: John, Bill yes. Opposed: Fred, Andrew, Mark Z, Mark G, Don, Terry. Market update: Terry said she spends 3 to four hours at the market and last week was at Little Annie's talking to old timers. Everything is going well. Bill said we still need a count of the number of people who attend the market for our records. We don't have to put it in the end of year report but we should how the attendance. CCLC requested staff to hire four teenagers to do the count. One at Hyman, Hunter and Hopkins and a relief person. Fred agreed getting a number is sensible because we will have to do a report at the end of the market for city council. Bill said there is not enough electricity to handle the market. COMMERCIAL CORE & LODGING COMMISSION MINUTES OF AUGUST 4, 2010 John said the community accepts the market. Fred said a business man discussed the market for''/z hour and how it impacts local businesses. Andrew suggested a survey be taken on how many people enjoy the market. Bill said as an aggregate we need to know what the sales are at the end of the market. Kathy said she will discuss this with the finance department. John said Little Annie's has a lot of space that might not be needed next year. Kathy said she put another add in advertising the move of Homestead Meats and Zephyros Farms to Hyman. Don said he would write a survey to be handed out. Kathy said she sends e-mail out on the weather weekly and if any issues come up. Andrew pointed out if you have a store front you can have a booth. If you are an ACRA member you can get in their booth. John said there are too many jewelers. Bill agreed. Fred said he loves the market and likes the expansion. Fred agreed that jewelry is an issue and possibly on Hyman we can add a few more booths. Bill said the MAA took two weeks out of the summer schedule. Can we bring one week back and what would it cost to bring that one week back. Bill said he will research the fee and possibly the city could contribute. John said we need to internationally market this town. Fred agreed. Adjourn 10:30 a.m.