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MINUTES OF OCTOBER 03~ 2001
Vice-chair Bill Dinsmoor called the meeting to order at 8:30 a.m. In
attendance were Eric Cohen, Andrew Kole and Terry Butler. John Start and
Jon Busch were excused.
FARMERS MARKET
Adam Walton, represented the residents of the 600 Block and they are
opposed to the expansion for safety reasons and the trash. The neighbors
believe that a better place would be on a public park, specifically the Rio
Grande Park. They all go to the farmers market weekly but are opposed to
the expansion.
Terry said living in downtown you make sacrifices. She would be happy if
the farmers market expanded. She would hope that Adam would change his
mind. His points are correct but she feels it will not be too detrimental to
him. The farmers market is only on Saturdays.
Andrew said the other thought was to possibly use the parking lot behind
city hall.
Terry said possibly it could be expanded west toward the fire department.
Eric said the beer bottles are from late night activity not the farmes market
but he is also concerned about the cigarette butts all over town. This is not
directly correlated with increasing the farmers market. It is a different issue
and a problem.
Charles Kennedy said expansion toward commercial should be taken into
consideration.
Adam said L'Hosteria said the 50 gallon grease drum does not belong to
them. The drum is partially in the alley. Dr. Krandall's office said a bear
had pulled over the 50 gallon drum and it was all over the alley. Adam said
he then called Steve Barwick's office and the spill was rectified. At the
brown bag Brian Flyrm said the Environmental Health Officers said they
need to look into this grease situation.
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Bill said he appreciated the problems and he personally would endorse the
city capturing the grease problem: There is another one, one block down
from the Main Street Bakery that needs addressed. Staff relayed that the
dumpster/trash ordinance will be coming back to council shortly after the
study is formulated.
Jefflsaacson, Italian Ice said we as vendors are trying to be self monitoring
as far as trash is concerned. They leave the place cleaner than when they
came in. They are very respectful of that block.
Jeanette Whitcomb, Envitonmental Health officer said she felt with the
change in the vending agreement to allow Colorado made, produced etc.
would enable the farmers market to fill the entire street.
Chris Bendon, planner said he and Andrew Kole met with the farmers
market and then he met with them individually Saturday. The primary
concept is half agriculture and the product is primarily Colorado made or
produced. The vending agreement would allow for on-site consumption.
The board talked about rotating booths. Andrew said the local businesses
would not be kept out and would be invited to participate on a rotation
basis. Local crafts were brought up and a not-for-profit booth.
Chris and Andrew mentioned tables that would be provided by the city and
stored to keep a cleaner look. The tables could be stored under a tarp by
city hall.
Chris also discussed a management and market coordinator.
Jeanette and Chris suggested a Market Coordinator to handle all the new
ideas and booths.
Jeff Isaacson said Boulder and Cherry Creek's coordinator get $27,000 to
manage the market. There are other markets that take a percentage.
Jeff Isaacson said each group could represent a person for the market board.
Chris said the farmers want the control internally over the agriculture
booths.
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Staff relayed that the vending agreement must be approved by council and
the potential changes.
Andrew said he feels the concept should be put out there to see who wants
to be in the farmers market.
Heather lsberian said she is concerned about the level of"quality" of crafts
and merchandise that is proposed to be sold at the farmers market.
Andrew said as far as crafts etc. possibly Anderson Ranch or some other
entity could be in charge of those decisions.
Eric said expanding it and keeping the quality and level of crafts and
product up is essential for the success of the market.
Jeff said the farmers are also concerned about the quality of crafts etc. that
will be in the farmers market and they do not want to be involved in the
selection.
The board discussed the drive o£the farmers market/open air market.
Terry said the nebulous area will be the local businesses, do we go high end,
middle end or low end on merchandise being sold.
Charles Kennedy said for marketing maybe it should be called the Saturday
Market. Andrew felt it should include "outdoor". The product and how you
promote it is the key.
Jeff said the farmer market name should not be changed at this point.
Eric said he doesn't want to see restaurant competition meals including
lunches and he doesn't want to see any meals cooked on site.
Jeanette said food could be regulated and non-regulated as a criteria.
Andrew reported on Taste of Aspen and possibly some restaurant will want
to do a cooking demonstration. Bill said we should eliminate the Taste of
Home in general.
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Chris suggested that it should be mentioned in the vending agreement for a
later date so that we do not have to go back to city council.
Jeff said they cannot sell cooked entrees and he is opposed to allowing
Taste of Home.
Eric said local businesses should be licensed and operating in the City of
Aspen.
Andrew said the local businesses could be a grOup under a licensed entity.
This enables people who do not have a business license to sell under a
licensel
Regarding the non-profit Charles Kennedy mentioned adopt a dog. 'They
might want to be in a non-profit booth.
Bill said the idea 0f using Connor Park as an expansion area for the farmers
market was brought up.
Eric informed the board that Bob Blake who is on P&Z feels strongly that
any expansion would be a chhnge in land use and would necessitate P&Z
review.
Chris said P&Z would review the changes if Conner Park is chosen for the
expansion.
Bill asked about the music. Jeff said it enhances the farmers market. Music
should happen later in the day and occur every Saturday. Amplified music
to start after 11:00 a.m. under special review and based on complaints.
Jeanette asked who is the board and who is the association. She feels CCLC
should be the appeals board.
Andrew said ifa CCLC member has to make a decision on an appeal that
individual can recuse him or herself and the other CCLC members can vote.
Chris said decisions and voting are going to be a concern to council.
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Andrew said he will talk to potential groups to see i£they desire to be
involved in the farmers market.
The market coordinator would be hired by the association. The association
is reviewing a potential increase in dues.
COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
Terry mentioned enlarging the area beyond the two malls and toward City
Market for doggie bags. The sacks come out by two and threes. Terry will
look at different sites £or locations and then we will vote at the next meeting
on the funding.
MOTION: Eric moved to approve the minutes of Sept. ]0, 2001; second by
Bill. All in favor. Motion carried.
MOTION: Eric moved to adjourn; second by Bill. All in favor, motion
carried.
Meeting adjourned at 11:15 a.m.
Kathleen J. Strickland, Chief Deputy Clerk