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BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT
flay 3, 1984
City Council Chambers
4:00 p.m.
AGENDA
I. Minutes
August 4, 1983
September 22, 1983
II. Case #84-8/Wally Burke
III. Adjourn
RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
Regular-Ileeking—_ Board of Adiustment May 3, 1984
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RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
Regular Meeting Board of Adjustment May 3 , 1984
Drueding said the 1celandic has been notified and will ba before
the Mar& M cites the cases imsediateiv which are the most
obvious . There is a insufficient time a___L manpower to enforce
tha sign lulls. Mll Street Station beL7,,orr; tl-ic hoard
also. Cann asked if Nil! Stract Station has a ground and subgrode
level . Head clarifie6 thera are three floors. Austin asked
if their awni.r.gs count toward sign squZ71re moot acjo . D r ue 6 i rig
saiv] what is on there yes. He pre enter somc, ','iistory on 11i1l
Strcet Station . Prior to the completion of W'.e job, he talkeu
with the architact about awnings. That was worted out, there
is Dinimal sign age on the awnings. But new businesses arise. if
the owner Goes not notify now businesses of the v ign orAnanc Cis ,
then tho sign problem grows. He met with CC LC yesterday norning.
CCLC is trying to distri5ute brochures to new busirless.es about
the sign code. The code is antiqu.-at.,ad. 7'ut tn-e builclingi department
is trVing to stay on top of it. An updated sign code is needed.
Head said the code is trying to promote of space. Tho code
was aritten perhaps when Zrontage directly fronted streets ,
in the orthoganol grid pattern nhich is compon in Moen.
Darry Edwards, city attorney, said the co,-]o to rcvisf-�L--,
to mxDot thc -)robleyns which are being Perna,
Drueding can present 75wards his thoughts on code revisions ,
thun Edwards can draw up a draft for a revised Co. _. The present
code is sot up to look like the 101 East lly.-.ian -.7e n u e D u i 1�-'i n r`
where Man Garf ield, Tracy Title Conpany are 10CIat-CLI . There
is a listing of evcrything in the building. That is it. Peopic
on ground level give up signage space for the other buildings
in the interior. Until the code is revised, th,al,-. is works .
Lavagnino suggested a certain percentage of signage be alloww",
anci' deterwined bv the •amount of space !)usiness has , is
that reasonable. Edwards argued by tho time that is done, thQ
entiLe ...rontage may be covcrcd with sign. because there may
be wany new Mops behind the streets. Lavagnino replied it
is determinei by the amount of space each business his. He viantE.
sowe equity iin, Ithc: c-oc-7i.e . Ec'l--.,, ards said he -Ioos is 'no,-?
to deal NO this now. He is not aware of the s?ecific probMio.
This is the first time he has Man asked to address this issue.
lie proposad ngain that Drueding to
Then Edwards can put tagotlier a workable solution. Lavcgnino
said but thorn is an applicant h2re, an,-- I-= to i-Iealt
with now. He neads some quieelines.
Cdwar6s is curioun that nurke is not here to too!! tho Voar.,-7.
RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
Regular Meeting ____ Board of Adjustment I-lay 3, 1984
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sign oftlinance h�s ,,-)een revised. Edwards se-aid once tlla- -L--
it is rotroac-i--ive.
n s a i o-i r c.1 r n s e m i n i i 1:1 u,-i,,, a n dl n c,N,7 o r n a n c
is more loniont, -Ci-len --l-lic can illio O"'M CII-Ingals .
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Regular Meeting Board of Adjustment Mav 3 .J1
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concept is the option . in this case it is not fair. Druedin,�,
said ha is not opposell to dirnctoricn; , °�ct out o-'_
hand . Lav,,gnino the directories can be controlled. IK!
cit2d the case of the jentist located in a residential arna .
Lz-_L -tgnino suggested a directory which tells; tile public what
is avAlah1c ; if the public is interested they will go uDstairs.
_'rue inn noted that shoula be limited to t1he allowed
signage. Mods said tho anaoured cop,,,.- a_roa is !as,,, than.
feet . Drue din g did not measure that. Lavagnino asked if the
measurement is the entire sign itself . Dru._.6,ing sai�J yes, it
is the entire c-:torior surface of the sign. Woods argued thai:
another portion of the code refutes Uiat . Sh-a -�uoted - fT�,;i q n
area should !,)o th!,e area of the smallest geometric figure whicli
ancoi)."-)ass,es the facing of the sign including copy, insignia ,
background and bordors. . . " Drueding disagreed with Rood ' s inter-
pretation. Drueding noteC the code says "boriers. ''
lin if there H a directory sign which Go riot havic
LO .:2v.-�.ry a bLitiZ..f.'.:>i:i c,ianges. !-, t1lat not advantageous
to the building department? Drueding said no. The coda says
aiyy t_ir:,ic a sicjn is changed or moved, a nermit needs to be reaDaliec-1
for. Repainting is the only change allowed without a permii
Tjoods reported that Durke wished a sLra,,.; vo-Lo , i_-f" t_'.1aL votc,
denied the request , her client would like to come and represent
himself, he is currently out of town. The applicant rc:-,uests
t a bi i rig . 115wards said if the DoarC 3aes riot mind tabling it
is all right. Lavamini argued that the applicant knew this
was a public meeting . Khat if a citizen of not like tHe way
th,;! Vot2 -i,_m ,
17 be reqfuests equal time but not at the scheduled
meeting bacause he is out of town, an? requests tabling? Edwards
suggected move to continue thn yuhlic hearing to the nent regular
session, wove to table this matter . The public; can cone in Z?-
they want to. it is acne all the tine in City Council . 2'.u 0 t i n
said if a concerned citizen cannot ao-r
pear at a tablorl. date r ec.-u e s t 0
by the applicant he can write a letter. EcKards said as long
as the public hearing is continued, pee-,ple are 'oeingf treated'!
�x,ually. The public still has input at the neat regularly scheduled
meating and the Board is also being asked to consider the case
at that time.
Hann said it needs to be clarified for the that as
the applicant listens to BoarMs discussioii of the cas .-: in ti.e
closcc] --)ortion of the hearing then the applicant can draw his
own conclusions if the DoaA is not favoring the case, then
the applicant has the right to raquest a reconsideration.
RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
Regular Meeting Board of Adjustment flat/ 3 . 1984
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sicin.s; I a!l,c iclic s-gns o I, stagy?rway J m-i n
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ann said tnere, Is, a -,�,,ractical are narrow
ailllc; Lt 1 s e�m.7;jy itc, ,-,,a!L'-, by rio"L: I:now t-here are sho1'.)s
U,DSZC�i rs. :�,art o-f t1--e ha .6.11 is tliat_ t-1-110 co,,-,Il- c_',oes no'L aj:-7ress
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s, s i t u- 0 n av or s 4-,
COT;.,n t"I"e S 1 11:5, on t'i•! stairwjlvs. Lavag.nino casl:e-c' i_-,� t,-,,at includes
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ic `-now i-Inc,.-,-- t'-,oro are snops
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s (-),ps up.stairs. r, i ' wh
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the co d> sayEo but violates the cot,'; anyway , then the Board
has the discration to Wy the varionce.
1,avagrlino - iRcs the intent of the sign to inforin people in a
E irectory in a naric fashion what is u,-)stairo. The fact that
the entire complez is in violation of the code , ?revents In Lit
from granting this variance until the violations are rectified.
Pustin as�red if the Board can look at the whole building comp la::
at ona timc rathar than revicw each separat..,_,ly. Cr-,,n the 1=;oar(.
requast that all the cases be reviewti,d. at one fcimr2? Druo�,_',inc;
said saic business owners may refuse to co:ic in. ic-f tnc,
do not comply, time perDiting takes then court. Austin t
argued to make the
S attempt, at least, Lo tal% to M Burke and',
,.o :7jet all the shop owin!rs together . Lavagnino said if t:,i,,
is tabled, perhaps convince Hr. Burke to do just that.
There is a general consensus supporting Lai agnino' s presentation.
Lavagnino opened the public haaring. lie _ d4. ,e the applicant
it will ba to her advantage to table to a date certain because
it now ajn)ears the Doard will not grant the variance. Hoods
agreed . She also agreed the directory solution is a lot cleancr
than hundreds of signs at street level . Shn also would like
the opportunity to maka suggestions for the sign code revisions.
Lavagnino suggestea the applicant at the nnxt regularly scheduled
iseeting present a plan wilich standardizes all ti e signs , an,,',
a plan Kich he has discussed wit!-. the Cic.,
part..ir�nt anc]
which brings the signage to code.
Lava gnino closed the public hearing.
Rick Head moves to table case M-8 , .Tcally ',) ,e, to 24 ,
19M, the nezt regularly scheMed meeting of the Board of Adjust-
ment; sec0nd2d by Charlie Patorson. All in fa.vor; -.,.,,otion
Rick WAlay, attorney for 'Fi::c 11,ull who in the proprietor t
Bistro Cafe, requested to be placed briefly on the 1 gen0a
toQy to considar a modification of a condition on a prior varianc.'-.'
)prov ,�d by Lie Board an October 22 , ID 31 Wase TM-5 , Uiid'.
Oates, inc./Poppies Fistro Cnfe) .
Dailey saW in October , 1901 , the ownor :DL.forc_, the
DoaV to request a variance to inn reasi:r tl-iL: s;izc 65C
sc. u,are ii lbac!-: of At that time a condition
RECORD OF PROCEEDILtGS
Regular Meeting of Adiustment May 33 , 1984
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f rora a ac..,.-iinistrative agency . This is a reconsiOeration
of a condition D4sed uoon the prior Tn��
L:-_at tlne 7.pproval of the nonconforming use relatas to the entire
structurs not to just to W use of that specific area. Lavagnino
said that was a condition of the variance arm! the public was
aware of that.
Edwards replied that Miley has a gooiI li:gai argu-.-,.Qnt , it is
tachnically sound. The
y opolicy the Cty Council has -ia i t;i..t
if there is anduM
tnat the public should have input, then
the ?ublic snould have input. That is Council ' s polioy.
Lavagnina asked if r-Doarc, tliin ,,) tncre should �)e a -_public,
hearing. 2atarson said he wants a n2aring , wents a plan, anJi;
wants an on-site inspection, rather t' __n v di
n remoe the contion.
Wiley said he wants a modification of the con,�Htion to
1AO s; ua.re feet . _T�aJ agnino the Doard wants to see eractly
whare this is to be done, and what th:3 -Ire. -'-lull SaiL,.
is L i t 1-�(i s �_7 a
is aJi-ling anothor sin 001 ,as. TnL-,' -orevious
advartised, one person from the public; Hans Graminq;&r , CaIMIC
in. W does not recall the reasons for Gramingor ' s
it hQG to do xvith nountains an& tl,_at
altitka.
`u]LI Sai "_:I _,, e6 -I-ias Mans . Lavagnino asked Patorsoin if view i 1-i C,
the plans now will Atisfy Paterson. Patersoir,. to the
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premisas. 7L1 was 130 square feet not used, when the applicant
Sad such a ctrong argamQnt? Lavagnino asked if thn public shoulc-,
be informec! nbout this? Paterson saicl tli.,-it is i-,..ot
Auatin agrees with Paterson. Aerz aW-.e:_, t7aat condition had
not Men MALAWI in the original motion then that applicant
would not have to come teforc tHc DonW,. to lay. 17ull sai,:! ycr-, •
Herz said that condition must have bean included for some reason.
Mad said lie wants to read thu minutes to roviow what the arguments,
were before he votas. Austin also wantad to rnad the ninutes.
Edwords naiQ the applicant does not have to renoticc for another
varianco; a notice in front of the establishment is not necessary
either. The Board can hold a puhlic hearing can rev i -_ •>
the promises . !out it it, not necessary undar the code for W-:-.
applicant to go through the variance process.
Neilcy said ha is not attempting to renege on the prcvious conO-
ition. it is difficult to is constructed
evactly how the needs arc going to be affected and emaciii_ what—
ho needs are going to to. During Vie original application
.._is client anticiDated a nowd 7ar 750 o-(-,u: rc ._ act. it is noT.-7
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arca addrassed today in fict is an& was w0l within the setbacks.
3.,,,hat was the purpose of that conGition on th, variance.
DruMing askad if the Zoard is going to make a decision today.
Lavagnino said no. Hea C r a�un s On d tile 10 --r-,uI te to i the
reasons for the conaition. Lavagnino saW the applicant needs
a public hearing . Drueding said one resson was to 2:nparw& tie
kitchan, that was what tho variance was for, not to e-xpnn,.J' scatin�>
Hull not• c! that Fred Smith conditioned the motion.
Edwards road the minutes earlier. There was lengthy discussio-,-,�
on that issue, but the Mara did not eNplain -,ahy t"..,at con(:.",ition
not to ezpand seating capacity was attached _ :C, :7 that that
it was a great idea.
',,,e went originally before the of :�cljust-�ient .
th�-_n he ' o go to Council. Council Ratermined-,
it t`io ',.,, rong it was agrae�--] everyone that this
should be dona. He ended up at the Board of 7,-,,-1justT---,ent tv,o i:-toLe-
tinwas ...,_ t _ r that. Lavagnino said the reason of
is Foreot Scrvico involv=ent. it was dcterminnC that an act
of Congress was necessary.
,_1 sai(--1 no one uncl.c!rEytaiuls why this condition wao attachod.
At the time lie iaentioned it, but no one proviOnd any roasons.
Ma was too concerned with tile kitchen space . a-v a g ii i n o s,--,.i d.
the Board gavc his _.,era room. Tie recallec- tlic:
co tho 7oard was the need for more kitchen space; that was tW�
initial reason for gra.-iting tlic3 variance. The Mari Ad no-'Z:
want Full to raake the operation bigger. That is why the Board
NO not want to capand on the seating capacity c"Oerwise tho
variance woula not have been granted in the first place.
'oes not for;3(ae servicing a 1huge number of more people .
The incraase is so small that it only allows for soin°�' -71a"-7. Lavagnino
said he is playing the Board back and forth. lull saW that
was not his original intent nor is it his intent no--.,,. Ci rcuimstan-ces
have changed. Lavagnino ankad why lie is liere before the Esoar�]
how. Hull roplieO to see if there is a possibility of rescinding
that condition.
T�ava(,-nino said a Dublic meeting still neecls to !)o t:--i2
iieeting needs to be advertised, a notice neet,s to 1)e postc, �!.
on the for ten c1tays. Doiley said it is not clear
if that is a requiremunt. At this point the i -,,, 'not
-, n of -nonconforming use or nny HOW of appeal
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