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HomeMy WebLinkAboutcclc.min.03022005COMMERCIAL CORE & LODGING COMMISSION MINUTES OF MARCH 2~ 2005 Vice-chair Terry Butler called the meeting to order at 8:30 a.m. In attendance were Shea Singer and Stan Hajenga. Bill Dinsmoor and Mark Goodman arrived at 8:50 a.m. Excused were John Starr, Mark Breslin and Don Sheeley. Shea requested that the CCLC get involved with the Dwell architect and the recommendations that will be going forward to City Council. This is an independent group put on by ACRA, City of Aspen and the downtown core. It originally started out with tables and chairs and signage and now it is turning into the malls only and the exclusion of the rest of the core. We need to determine if this is a mall improvement or a core improvement. Signage should occur all over town. Stan said he took the packet to a lot of the lodges and they never even heard about the dwell architect and they expressed interest in giving input because it effects where there people go. You get a lot of comments from guests. Shea said the design needs to be directed toward the entire core. Bill said there isn't any funding available that he is aware of for this project. He is not energized to go after a notion when there is no money. Stan said there is a proposal to put in a ski walk of fame through Dean Street. Shear said we need to get everyone together, the Dean Street architects and the Dwell architects and become one to facilitate. Bill said he is not sure he wants to commit from Dean Street to Obermeyer without a funding commitment. Saturday Market Bill said he advised the applicants that were rejected to update their application and not to reapply. If for some reason someone pulled out he would consider looking at the applications. Jackie announced that the rejection letters and checks were sent back to the applicants. COMMERCIAL CORE & LODGING COMMISSION MINUTES OF MARCH 2~ 2005 Bill said applicants that were rejected should be informed of the Highlands market. Heather Isberian said the traffic at Buttermilk is terrible. Shea said she has a meeting with the City Manger and will bring up the situation. Bill said the head of the health department needs to give a green light to Angel that has the elixir bar. We need something submitted to our insurance company for liability purposes. The Farmers meeting is March 8th. Bill said the footprint that Jack used last year is the one he intends to use this year. Bill suggested that David and Maggie and Jack get together to discuss the placement of vendors on the map. Bill said that Italian Ice is moving and his concern is that there might not be enough power at the new location. Bill asked that David work with Maggie concerning the vendor placement. Terry asked about Tammy Lane's application. Shea said she lives here and is an amazing artist. Terry said if a slot comes open we should consider her. David said we should keep a tracking list of all applicants accepted and rejected and those that came in late. Shea said she tried to get the flower shops together to put in an application before the deadline but they couldn't get together. Tammy had the same amount of time as the other applicants. If we have openings perhaps we open it up to a three day application or something like that. Mark said our number one charge is quality for this market. Stan asked if the slots are not full what happens. Bill said non-profits and more spacing in booths. Bill said Maggie has a process for the non-profits to work in a rotating booth. Terry said her view is different. When she walks by the non-profits they do not catch her eye and she really doesn't read the material. Our charge is to have the highest quality and interesting vendors in the market to encourage COMMERCIAL CORE & LODGING COMMISSION MINUTES OF MARCH 2~ 2005 enthusiasm and have people wanting to come back to see what we have. If we erroneously put our rules too narrow so that we are not able to capture or fill all of our slots then we need a re-submission program. She agreed with Mark. We need to be inclusive not exclusive. We need a wonderful, successful, colorful, inviting market. It is not about the rules and regulations as to how we get there. Shea asked David what would happen if you had a late application for other markets. David said you would probably not get accepted. David said he is interested in what we do next year to stream line the process. Bill said flat art is highly represented in the market. Jackie said she didn't know how many booths were full in the market. Shea said we need to point out to the non-profits that they need some artistic flair in their booth. David said we need to point that out. Mark pointed out that Wildwood added vibrancy to the market. Shea said it is ethically wrong to look at applications after the deadline. MOTION: Terry made the motion that in view of our goal for the market which is to have the highest quality and to fill the market Ithink that it would be important to widen our scope and be more inclusive and re-open for the other five or six spots applications worded that it is inclusive to those that had applied and were out of town and couldn't apply and we advertise in the newspaper adequately wherever the advertising needs to be, to achieve a better market and to give these people a second chance; second by Stan. Discussion: Stan said we need to resolve the non-profit situation first so that we know what we are looking at. Possibly the non-profits can take two booths. Bill said Wildwood was in front on the grass by the entrance to the park last year. Mark asked if we had an application for the non-profits. Bill said Maggie has those records. COMMERCIAL CORE & LODGING COMMISSION MINUTES OF MARCH 2~ 2005 Stan said we will have years that are up and down. We need to keep the market full. Shea said we have met our quota in flat art and what category do we advertise for? Should we charge a penalty for allowing the process to be open? Bill said the furniture/sculpture area only has three booths. Terry said sometimes we loose ourselves in the rules and regulations of the process and miss the goal and the goal is to have good art and the best in the valley for ourselves and our tourists. Mark said he is willing to go another round. He would like to see great applicants. David said the farmers have a meeting next week and if they have additional vendors that need space this conversation would be moot. In the future we might want to have a $50 non-refundable application fee. Bill said we could wait till after the farmers meeting. Vote on motion. Motion failed 3-2 Yes vote: Mark, Terry No vote, Bill Shea, Stan Shea said we could start a data-base when people call to inform them of the market. Heather said it would be a good idea to bring in more produce at the market. The driving force of the market is to get your fruits and vegetables. Terry pointed out that even the flowers do not come until later on. Shea asked about the cooking demonstrations. Bill said a big part of Maggie's job is setting up the cooking demonstrations in the park. Shea said she did a floral arrangement and dog training last year and possibly those demonstrations could be done in one of the booth spaces. Bill pointed out that it is hard to get space for an audience on the street. COMMERCIAL CORE & LODGING COMMISSION MINUTES OF MARCH 2~ 2005 Heather said they also did a mg repair demonstration but that comer of the street was hard to capture people's interest. Heather said she would like to show product (rags) that is not Colorado fiber. Bill said you can show anything but you cannot sell it. She also agreed that the non-profits have to have something happening in each group to attract the different level of ages in the market. Bill reminded the CCLC to attend the BID discussion. The BID could fund special projects. Snowmass is spending 2 million dollars to market their place. The BID could also help with special events and their promotions. Terry asked Bill what he though was the most significant capital project. Bill said no creditable architect would design linear malls today. There is no place to have alfresco dining and the trees are too huge and there is not enough light. Shea said she filled out a survey and the number one was an information kiosk and better signage. Parking always came up. Bill also mentioned extending paid parking this summer. How do you encourage people to stay in town and shop at night when there is no downtown parking? Parking is being taken up by restaurant employees. Shea said there was a discussion about paid parking on Saturday at the market. We have taken away a lot of parking on Saturday and perhaps there should be some leniency on Saturday for parking due to the lack of it. Bill said paid parking is a control mechanism. If you take it away you have less parking. Mark also said one of the big issues is lighting on the mall. Shea said the city has paid Stardoj to do a study of the lighting in the City. Mark said Aspen ahs lousy airline service. Colorado Mtn. Express is not a good solution getting people here from Denver. It is dark etc. MOTION: Bill made the motion to adjourn; second by Terry. Ali in favor, motion carried. Meeting adjourned at 10:30 a.m. Kathleen J. Strickland, Chief Deputy Clerk